How Can You Solve This Separation of Variables Problem?

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The discussion revolves around solving a differential equation using the method of separation of variables. Participants are seeking to understand the steps involved in arriving at a solution, with a focus on the specific equation provided.

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  • Homework-related, Exploratory, Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants present the differential equation $$(2xy-3y)dx-({x}^{2}-x)dy=0$$ and suggest that the solution is $$xy(x-3)=C$$.
  • Others inquire about the process of separating variables and express a need for a detailed solution rather than just the final answer.
  • A participant suggests verifying the proposed solution and points out a potential discrepancy between the problem statement and the answer given.
  • Another participant provides a separation of variables approach, leading to the integral $$\int\dfrac{2x-3}{x^2-x}dx=\int\dfrac{dy}{y}$$ and proposes a solution of the form $$y=\dfrac{kx^3}{x-1}$$.
  • Some participants emphasize the importance of guiding the original poster (OP) to work through the problem independently, rather than simply providing the solution.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

There is no consensus on the correctness of the proposed solutions, and multiple approaches to the problem are presented. Participants express differing views on how best to assist the OP in understanding the solution process.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the need for partial fractions in the integration process, and there are indications of potential typos or errors in the problem statement or proposed solutions, but these remain unresolved.

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$$(2xy-3y)dx-({x}^{2}-x)dy=0$$

ans. $$xy(x-3)=C$$

ty
 
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Hello and welcome to MHB! :D

I have shortened the thread title a bit and moved it here to our Differential Equations forum.

What do you get when you separate variables?
 
i need the solution in the given problem . .i found out in my book the answer . .i need the solution on how to solve the problem using the separation of variables
 
cheatmenot said:
$$(2xy-3y)dx-({x}^{2}-x)dy=0$$

ans. $$xy(x-3)=C$$

ty

$\displaystyle \begin{align*} \left( 2\,x\,y - 3\,y \right) \, \mathrm{d}x - \left( x^2 - x \right) \, \mathrm{d}y &= 0 \\ \left( 2\, x\, y -3\,y \right) \, \mathrm{d}x &= \left( x^2 - x \right) \, \mathrm{d}y \\ 2\,x\,y - 3\,y &= \left( x^2 - x \right) \, \frac{\mathrm{d}y}{\mathrm{d}x} \\ y \, \left( 2\,x - 3 \right) &= \left( x^2 - x \right) \, \frac{\mathrm{d}y}{\mathrm{d}x} \\ \frac{2x - 3}{x^2 - x} &= \frac{1}{y}\,\frac{\mathrm{d}y}{\mathrm{d}x} \\ \frac{2x - 3}{x \, \left( x - 1 \right) } &= \frac{1}{y} \, \frac{\mathrm{d}y}{\mathrm{d}x} \\ \int{ \frac{2x - 3}{x \, \left( x - 1 \right) }\, \mathrm{d}x } &= \int{ \frac{1}{y}\,\frac{\mathrm{d}y}{\mathrm{d}x}\,\mathrm{d}x} \\ \int{ \frac{2x - 3}{ x \, \left( x - 1 \right) } \, \mathrm{d}x} &= \int{ \frac{1}{y}\,\mathrm{d}y} \end{align*}$

Go from here. You will need to use Partial Fractions on the left hand side.
 
cheatmenot said:
i need the solution in the given problem . .i found out in my book the answer . .i need the solution on how to solve the problem using the separation of variables

Our goal here is to help students work their problems so that they are an active participant in the process of obtaining a solution and learn more that way, not just work the problem for them.

So, can you state what you get after you separate the variables?
 
cheatmenot said:
$$(2xy-3y)dx-({x}^{2}-x)dy=0$$

ans. $$xy(x-3)=C$$

ty

You seem to have a typo in either your problem statement or your answer.

Suppose we verify the answer, then we get:
$$d(xy(x-3)) = dx\,y(x-3) + x\, dy\,(x-3) + xy\,dx = (2xy-3y)dx + (x^2-3x)dy = 0$$

As you can see, this does not match your problem statement.
 
$\displaystyle\dfrac{2x-3}{x^2-x}dx=\dfrac{dy}{y}\Rightarrow\ \int\dfrac{2x-3}{x^2-x}dx=\int\dfrac{dy}{y}$
$y=\dfrac{kx^3}{x-1}$
 
laura123 said:
$\displaystyle\dfrac{2x-3}{x^2-x}dx=\dfrac{dy}{y}\Rightarrow\ \int\dfrac{2x-3}{x^2-x}dx=\int\dfrac{dy}{y}$
$y=\dfrac{kx^3}{x-1}$

There are most likely many people here who can work this problem, but it would be better for the OP to get the OP to work it on their own, with some guidance. If we just give the solution, we have provided little service.
 

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