How can you use U.S. population data from 1790 to solve a differential equation?

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The discussion revolves around solving a differential equation related to U.S. population data from 1790. The original poster presents a model based on population growth rates derived from historical data and seeks assistance in integrating the equation.

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  • Participants explore the setup of the differential equation and the integration process. There are questions about the correct arrangement of terms for integration and the use of partial fractions. Some participants express confusion regarding the fractions involved and the integration of variables.

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There is ongoing dialogue with participants providing suggestions on how to rearrange the equation for integration. Some have offered insights into using partial fractions and the implications of leaving constants in the equation. The discussion reflects a collaborative effort to clarify the integration process without reaching a definitive conclusion.

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Participants are working within the constraints of a multi-part homework problem and are focused on the integration step of the differential equation. There is an emphasis on showing all steps and understanding the mathematical reasoning behind the process.

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Use P0 = 3.9 (1790 population) as your initial condition to find the particular solution for this differential equation. Note: You may find it easier to solve in terms of the constants a and b. Show all the steps in your solution.

This is the last step to a multi-part problem. I basically did a scatter plot of the population for each year (x) and the relative growth rate (y) which was found by dividing an approximate growth rate by the US population between 1790 and 2000, did a linear regression and obtained the equation below.

y = -.0000917x + .0287

Given (1/P)(dP/dt) = b +aP

(1/P)(dP/dt) = .0287 - .0000917(P)
I think I need to integrate and get 1/P(dt) = (.0287 - .0000917(P))/dP

I don't know if this is set up right to integrate and if it is the fractions are confusing me and I don't know where to start. Any help or suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks.
 
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Any suggestions or advice would be appreciated. Thanks.
 
pjallen58 said:
Use P0 = 3.9 (1790 population) as your initial condition to find the particular solution for this differential equation. Note: You may find it easier to solve in terms of the constants a and b. Show all the steps in your solution.

This is the last step to a multi-part problem. I basically did a scatter plot of the population for each year (x) and the relative growth rate (y) which was found by dividing an approximate growth rate by the US population between 1790 and 2000, did a linear regression and obtained the equation below.

y = -.0000917x + .0287

Given (1/P)(dP/dt) = b +aP

(1/P)(dP/dt) = .0287 - .0000917(P)
I think I need to integrate and get 1/P(dt) = (.0287 - .0000917(P))/dP

I don't know if this is set up right to integrate and if it is the fractions are confusing me and I don't know where to start. Any help or suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks.
No, you don't want to get 1/P(dt) = (.0287 - .0000917(P))/dP because you can't integrate "(1/P(dt))" is an unknown function of t (and you surely don't want the differentials in the denominator!). Get all the "P"s over on the left and "t" on the right. Then you can integrate, probably by using "partial fractions" on the left. If it were me, I would leave "a" and "b" in the equation until the final answer- less distracting.
 
I thought that didn't look right. Here is what I get:

(1/P(.0287-.0000917P)dp = dt

Integrate using partial fractions

1/.0287 ln|P/.0287-.0000917P| + C = t + C

ln|P/.0287-.0000917P| = .0287t + C

If t = 0, P = 3.9 so C = ln 137.6

Now I think I should take the exponential of each side to get:

|P/.0287 - .0000917P| = 137.6e^.0287t

Not sure if this is right thus far and plus since I am solving for P not sure how to isolate P. A little more guidnace would be appreciated. Thanks.
 
Just a little more help would be appreciated. Thanks.
 

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