How could inflation interact with recombination radiation?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion explores the interaction between light from recombination, which occurred approximately 380,000 years after the Big Bang, and gravitational waves generated during inflation, which took place shortly after the Big Bang. Participants seek to understand how these interactions contribute to the observed polarization of the Cosmic Microwave Background (CMB).

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions how recombination light interacts with gravitational waves from inflation to produce CMB polarization, noting that explanations often overlook this aspect.
  • Another participant references a source discussing the relationship between gravitational wave amplitude and the inflation energy scale, suggesting that while the amplitude diminishes over time, it does not completely vanish.
  • A participant explains that gravitational waves are continuously generated during inflation and stretched by the expanding spacetime, resulting in a spectrum of wavelengths that evolve differently after inflation ends.
  • It is noted that super-horizon gravitational waves interact with the baryon-photon plasma before recombination, leading to B-mode polarization in the released photons.
  • One participant inquires about the typical wavelengths of gravitational waves that produce B-modes at recombination.
  • Another participant responds that these wavelengths range from today's horizon size down to the horizon size at decoupling.
  • A follow-up question asks whether the rapid nature of recombination implies that gravitational waves remain static during this process.
  • A participant confirms that relevant gravitational waves at recombination are superhorizon-sized and do not evolve during that time.
  • Several participants express appreciation for the clarity of the discussion, indicating that the topic is complex yet understandable.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the nature of gravitational waves and their interaction with recombination light, particularly regarding the static nature of superhorizon waves during recombination. However, the discussion includes varying levels of understanding and complexity, indicating that some aspects remain nuanced and not fully resolved.

Contextual Notes

The discussion touches on the limitations of understanding the interaction between gravitational waves and recombination light, particularly regarding the evolution of gravitational waves and their wavelengths. There are unresolved questions about the implications of recombination speed on gravitational wave behavior.

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Okay, I will be the one in the class that asks the questions that some of us are afraid to ask but still want to know.

How could the light from recombination, which occurred about 380K years after the Big Bang, interact with the gravitational waves generated from inflation, which occurred instants after the Big Bang, in order to produce the CMB polarization that was announced?

There probably is a simple explanation, but all of the new releases and responses I read kind of gloss over that portion of it.
 
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wmikewells said:
Okay, I will be the one in the class that asks the questions that some of us are afraid to ask but still want to know.

How could the light from recombination, which occurred about 380K years after the Big Bang, interact with the gravitational waves generated from inflation, which occurred instants after the Big Bang, in order to produce the CMB polarization that was announced?

There probably is a simple explanation, but all of the new releases and responses I read kind of gloss over that portion of it.

From the following link, section 2,

http://cosmology.berkeley.edu/~yuki/CMBpol/CMBpol.htm


"The amplitude of the gravity wave is proportional to the expansion rate H during inflation, which in turn is proportional to the inflation energy scale squared:

GW amplitude ∝ H ∝ Einf^2, where Einf~<10^16GeV "

So after all that time the amplitude died down but did not completely go away?

See also,

http://www.newscientist.com/article/...l#.UyjaU6hdWSp
 
Gravitational waves are generated continuously during inflation. These gravitational waves are created from the vacuum and stretched by the inflating spacetime to extremely large scales. Since this is happening continuously, when inflation ends, you have a spectrum of gravitational waves, existing across a range of wavelengths: those that were created earliest have been stretched the most and are of the longest wavelength, and conversely for relatively young gravitational waves. When inflation ends, it dumps all its energy into radiation and matter -- so-called reheating. Immediately, this radiation can begin interacting with the gravitational waves set up by inflation. It takes a while for gravitational waves to die away: those that were stretched the most have been stretched so large that they have a wavelength larger than the observable universe! Such waves cannot evolve because parts of the wave are acausally separated from other parts of the wave: they must wait for the observable universe (which is growing all the while) to catch up to them. Once they fall within the observable universe, they begin to evolve, redshifting away with the expansion. So it's primarily these "super-horizon" gravitational waves that interact with the baryon-photon plasma before recombination; once the photons are liberated at recombination, they carry away the characteristic B-mode polarization -- proof that they once rubbed elbows with the elusive gravitational waves.

(Incidentally, since the gravitational waves redshift once they "fall" within the horizon of the observable universe, we don't see B-mode polarization on scales corresponding to and smaller than the horizon size at the time of recombination.)
 
What are typical wavelengths for the gravitational waves that produce the B-modes at the time of recombination?
 
Wavelengths of order today's horizon size down to the horizon size at decoupling.
 
bapowell said:
Wavelengths of order today's horizon size down to the horizon size at decoupling.

If recombination is relatively fast does that mean that the gravity waves don't change much and are basically static during recombination?

Thank you!
 
Yes. Although, at recombination all the gravity waves that are relevant to the B-mode polarization signal are superhorizon-sized and not evolving anyway!
 
Making more sense, thanks!
 
Wow, not as simple as I thought, but still simple enough to understand. Thanks!
 

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