How Did Barcelona Become Champions of Europe?

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The discussion revolves around Barcelona's recent victory in a European football championship, with participants expressing their opinions on the match, the teams involved, and the cultural implications of the celebration. The scope includes fan reactions, language inquiries, and critiques of the match performance.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants celebrate Barcelona's victory and express pride in their team.
  • Others express disappointment, particularly Arsenal supporters, who critique the match and the performance of players and referees.
  • There is a discussion about the meaning and origin of the term "Forza," with some asserting it is Italian and others suggesting it has Catalan roots.
  • Some participants challenge the cultural implications of the celebration, expressing concerns about nationalism and regional identity.
  • There are mixed feelings about the quality of play, with some arguing that Arsenal did not perform well, while others defend their players.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of opinions, with no clear consensus on the match's quality, the implications of the celebration, or the meaning of "Forza." Disagreements persist regarding the performance of both teams and the cultural significance of the victory.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference specific players and moments from the match, but there are unresolved questions about the implications of the term "Forza" and its correct usage in different languages.

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Forza Barca!

any barca fans around? Congrats , Barcelona champions of europe!

U guys showed them gooners what football is all about!
 
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I knew they were going to win.
Barca, duh-duh-duh!

btw, is there any place on the net allowing me to see videos/goals?
 
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Fyi

Barcelona Can Only Win Against Ten Men
 
Benji is a bit of a barca, mainly when he is exited or when some one knocks the door.
 
Is "Forza" a word in Spanish as well? All I know is "Forza Ferrari" which tells me "Forza" is an Italian word.
 
Curious3141 said:
Is "Forza" a word in Spanish as well? All I know is "Forza Ferrari" which tells me "Forza" is an Italian word.


It is a spanish word, but I'm having trouble figuring out exactly what Forza Barca is supposed to mean in english.

Forzar is 'to force', but conjugates as fuerz- not forz-. Unless its the imperative (command), which might be Forza. Still having trouble making that make sense in english.
 
NO PLEASE

Here no please. Are the catalonians invaded this forum too?.

I'm spanish, from Madrid, and I was supporting furiosly Arsenal. Now Barça has won we have to bear the anti-nationalist celebrations of the catalonians, like burning the spanish flag and shouting that they are a supreme civilization.

The word "Forza" belongs to the weird catalonian language, which has nothing to do with spanish (Castellano). I wish Arsenal had won, but the akwards work of Leman (the goalie) made it impossible.
 
Clausius2 said:
NO PLEASE

Here no please. Are the catalonians invaded this forum too?.

I'm spanish, from Madrid, and I was supporting furiosly Arsenal. Now Barça has won we have to bear the anti-nationalist celebrations of the catalonians, like burning the spanish flag and shouting that they are a supreme civilization.

The word "Forza" belongs to the weird catalonian language, which has nothing to do with spanish (Castellano). I wish Arsenal had won, but the akwards work of Leman (the goalie) made it impossible.


Well, I only know castellano, so this may be why I couldn't figure it out. So how does it translate anyway?
 
Well, when people (racing fans) say "Forza Ferrari", it sort of means "Strength to Ferrari" or something like that. It's not very well defined, really.
 
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Curious3141 said:
Well, when people (racing fans) say "Forza Ferrari", it sort of means "Strength to Ferrari" or something like that. It's not very well defined, really.

I figured its not, hence the problem. Ok, yeah that makes sense.
 
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Arsenal didn't play well.

I don't think Henry was right in saying the ref had a Barca shirt on - Eboue dived like a salmon to get the free-kick leading to Sol's goal.

Henry should've tucked away the 3rd minute chance - Arsenal should've got him the ball more.

Lehmann couldn't do anything but bring Eto (I think?) down - lucky the ref didn't award the goal too.

Barca deserved to win.

It was a bit like watching England vs Brazil - the nerves at knowing that at any time Ronaldinhio might waltzed through the defence and flick one past the keeper - on the international stage, he's in a different league from Henry.

Brazil for the world cup - I wouldn't bet against it, but just maybe a header from Sol will decide it in July...
 
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The word Forza is neither spanish nor catalan. It's an italian word meaning "very much", or "strength to". The catalan word for the same expression is "força", hence it should be written "força barca"
 
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meteor said:
The word Forza is neither spanish nor catalan. It's an italian word meaning "very much", or "strength to".

Yup, that's what I thought.
 
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Aren't Forza the right-wing fans of Juve? (or is it Lazio?)
 
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I am not exactly a Barcalona fan, my favourite is Real Madrid. But I am glad Barcalona won because I don't like Arsenal! :biggrin: :-p
 
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Reshma said:
I am not exactly a Barcalona fan, my favourite is Real Madrid. But I am glad Barcalona won because I don't like Arsenal! :biggrin: :-p
Real Madrid??

Bunch of pensioners :-p
 
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Hey they are #2 on the Spanish League!
 
  • #18
Reshma said:
Hey they are #2 on the Spanish League!
Yeah - there's a big gap between 1 and 2 :wink:

And it's still like watching some all-star team of the 90s when they play :-p
 
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Doesn't matter even if they are 12 points behind, I still like them :-p!
 
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Forza barca!
 
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