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How is it formed? How do particles move on it?
The discussion centers on the formation and function of accretion disks around black holes, exploring both theoretical and observational aspects. Participants delve into the mechanics of particle movement within these disks, the role of angular momentum, and the challenges in understanding related phenomena such as jets emitted from these disks.
Participants exhibit a mix of agreement on the basic formation principles of accretion disks while expressing differing views on the theoretical challenges and observational evidence. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the specifics of the accretion process and the nature of jets emitted from these disks.
Participants highlight limitations in their understanding of the theoretical models and the empirical evidence for accretion disks, particularly concerning the complexities of turbulence and its role in the accretion process.
This discussion may be useful for students and enthusiasts interested in astrophysics, particularly those seeking to understand the dynamics of black holes and accretion disks.
bcrowell said:The accretion disk is simply the cloud of matter (if any) falling into the black hole. It forms a disk for the same reason that, e.g., our solar system is planar: conservation of angular momentum. The particles move along trajectories that differ from Keplerian orbits in two ways: (1) the closer you get to the event horizon, the bigger the relativistic corrections to Newtonian gravity, and (2) they collide with one another sometimes. The collisions are the reason the accretion disk is so hot.
vitus988 said:I am new to the concept or the field. I've read wiki about it but still confused. I would like to get a more detailed theoretical view but don't know where to start. Any book or paper for recommendation?
bcrowell said:What's the level of your background in physics, and specifically relativity?
vitus988 said:I am an senior year undergraduate majored in physics in China.
I took an introduction course to general relativity for undergraduate. Knowing some basics about BH. I am trying to get to a deeper insight through English textbooks or papers.
bcrowell said:That's good -- it sounds like you have a strong background. Can you be more specific about what point is causing you difficulty right now? Do you just want to learn more about black holes, or is there something related to accretion disks that you don't understand?
I think they're simply observed directly. They also help to explain the planar nature of the solar system, and they arise naturally due to conservation of angular momentum.vitus988 said:It contains much information, however, without further explanation. How the accretion disk firstly proposed?
We look through a telescope and see accretion disks.On wiki it is only :" In the 1940s, models were first derived from basic physical principles." Then there is "In order to agree with observations". What are the observations?