How Do Different Metrics Affect Convergence and Divergence of Sequences?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the effects of different metrics on the convergence and divergence of sequences, specifically examining the sequences ${x}_{n}=\left(-1\right)^n$ and ${x}_{n}=\frac{1}{n}$. Participants explore the implications of using metrics ${d}_{1}$ and ${d}_{2}$ in this context.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that since metric ${d}_{1}$ is a constant multiple of ${d}_{2}$, a sequence converges in $(X,d_1)$ if and only if it converges in $(X,d_2)$.
  • Another participant provides a detailed analysis of the sequence ${x}_{n}=\frac{1}{n}$ using metric ${d}_{2}$, establishing conditions for convergence based on $\varepsilon$ and ${n}_{0}$.
  • A later reply discusses the sequence ${x}_{n}=\left(-1\right)^n$, noting that the distance between terms depends on whether the indices are odd or even, leading to a conclusion about its divergence in $(X,d_1)$.
  • There is a request for further assistance regarding the sequence ${x}_{n}=\left(-1\right)^n$, indicating uncertainty in the analysis.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the analysis of the sequence ${x}_{n}=\frac{1}{n}$ and its convergence, while there is ongoing discussion and uncertainty regarding the sequence ${x}_{n}=\left(-1\right)^n$ and its divergence.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions about the metrics and their implications on convergence are not fully explored, and the discussion does not resolve the nuances of the divergence of the sequence ${x}_{n}=\left(-1\right)^n$.

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Let $X=R$ and ${d}_{1}\left(x,y\right)=\frac{1}{\eta}\left| x-y \right|$ $\eta\in \left(0,\infty\right)$ and ${d}_{2}\left(x,y\right)=\left| x-y \right|$..By using ${d}_{1}$ and ${d}_{2}$ please show that ${x}_{n}=\left(-1\right)^n$ is divergent and ${x}_{n}=\frac{1}{n}$ is convergent...
 
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Hello again ozkan12,

You should show what you've tried or at least mention you don't know where to begin so that we know you've attempted the problem. For now, here are some things to consider. The metric $d_1$ is a constant multiple of $d_2$, so a sequence converges in $(X,d_1)$ if and only if it converges it $(X,d_2)$. Hence, it suffices to work with just the metric $d_2$.
 
Dear Euge,

Yes, it suffices to work with metric ${d}_{2}$...I found somethings, I sent these things...Please can you check it ?

Firstly, we will use metric ${d}_{2}$ and discuss on sequence ${x}_{n}=\frac{1}{n}$.

Let $\varepsilon>0$ and ${n}_{0}>\frac{1}{\varepsilon}$ (i.e the smallest integer that is larger than $\frac{1}{\varepsilon}$.)

İf, $n\ge{n}_{0}$

$n\ge{n}_{0}>\frac{1}{\varepsilon}$ $\implies$ $\frac{1}{n}\le\frac{1}{{n}_{0}}<\frac{1}{\varepsilon}$

Then, $d\left({x}_{n},0\right)=\frac{1}{\eta}\left| {x}_{n}-0 \right|=\frac{1}{\eta}\left| {x}_{n} \right|=\frac{1}{\eta}\frac{1}{n}\le\frac{1}{\eta}\frac{1}{{n}_{0}}<\frac{1}{\varepsilon.\eta}$.

But, I haven't a opinion related to sequence $x_n=(-1)^n$...Please can you check first one and help me related to $x_n=(-1)^n$
 
Assuming $d = d_1$, what you have is almost correct -- the two last $(1/\epsilon)$'s you have should be replaced with $\epsilon$. As for the case $x_n = (-1)^n$, consider that $d(x_n,x_m) = 2/\eta$ if $n + m$ is odd and $0$ otherwise. Hence, if $\epsilon = 1/\eta$, then given $N\in \Bbb N$, $d_1(x_{N+1},x_N) = 2/\eta > \epsilon$. Therefore, the sequence $(x_n)$ is not Cauchy in $(X,d_1)$. This implies $(x_n)$ is divergent in $(X,d_1)$.
 
Dear Euge

Thank you for your attention...Best wishes...:) Have you any information related to modular metric spaces ?
 

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