How Do Dirac Spinors Relate to the Ricci Scalar in Curved Spacetime?

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The discussion revolves around the relationship between Dirac spinors and the Ricci scalar in the context of curved spacetime. The original poster is tasked with computing the square of the Dirac operator in this setting and demonstrating a specific equation involving the Ricci scalar.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster attempts to show that Dirac spinors satisfy a particular equation involving the Ricci scalar. They express uncertainty about relating the commutator of covariant derivatives to the Ricci scalar. Other participants suggest checking standard results and reference materials, while some question the correctness of the original poster's approach.

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Participants are exploring various aspects of the problem, including the computation of specific terms and the implications of the commutation relations. Some guidance has been offered regarding references and the nature of covariant derivatives in curved spacetime, but no consensus has been reached on the solution.

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There is a mention of potential confusion regarding the notation in the original equation, as well as the need to clarify the relationship between the commutator of covariant derivatives and curvature tensors. The original poster expresses uncertainty about the correctness of their approach to solving the equation.

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I have to compute the square of the Dirac operator, D=γaeμaDμ , in curved space time (DμΨ=∂μΨ+AabμΣab is the covariant derivative of the spinor field and Σab the Lorentz generators involving gamma matrices). Dirac equation for the massless fermion is γaeμaDμΨ=0. In particular I have to show that Dirac spinors obey the following equation:
(−DμDμ+14R)Ψ=0 (1)
where R is (I guess) the Ricci scalar. Appling to the Dirac eq, the operator γνDν and decomposing the product γμγν in symmetric and antisymmetric part I found:
DμDμΨ+14[γμν][Dμ,Dν]Ψ=0
Now I have troubles to show that this last object is related with the Ricci scalar. Can somebody help me or suggest me the right way to solve Eq. (1)?
 
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In the last Equation is 1/4 and not 14.
 
The commutator of <curved> covariant derivatives is proportional to a term involving the curvature tensor (in terms of vierbeins) and to another term involving the torsion tensor (again written in terms of vierbeins). This is a standard result which you should check by yourself or look it up in a book. You should really compute this term:

[\gamma^{\mu},\gamma^{\nu}][D_{\mu},D_{\nu}] \Psi
 
Thanks. The problem is that I'm not able to compute that term. I guess something like:

μρ] Rμρ ψ

Moreover I do not know if this is the right way to solve Equation (1).
 
Try Nakahara's book for a useful reference on the vierbein - spin connection formalism. We can't perform the calculations for you.
 
@gauge86:you might be aware of that covariant derivatives don't commute.In GR you might have seen that this difference amounts to curvature tensor.So that commutator must likely to be ricci curvature tensor or something equivalent.
 

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