How Do Elastic Collisions Affect Velocities and Center of Mass Movement?

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The discussion centers around an elastic collision involving two balls of different masses and velocities. Participants are tasked with finding the final velocities of the balls and the velocity of their center of mass before and after the collision.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster expresses frustration with the problem and seeks a step-by-step explanation. Some participants suggest using conservation of momentum and energy principles, questioning the total momentum and energy before and after the collision. Others propose setting up equations based on these conservation laws to find the unknown final velocities.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, exploring different interpretations of the conservation laws. Guidance has been offered regarding the setup of equations, but there is no explicit consensus on the approach to take or the specific steps to follow.

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The original poster mentions being lost and only having knowledge of derivatives from calculus I, which may impact their ability to engage with the problem fully. There is an indication that this is past homework, suggesting time constraints or additional pressures.

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Homework Statement


A ball of mass 0.206 kg with a velocity of 1.54 m/s meets a ball of mass 0.291 kg with a velocity of -0.396 m/s in a head-on, elastic collision.
(a) Find their velocities after the collision.
1f = m/s
2f = m/s
(b) Find the velocity of their center of mass before and after the collision.
cm, before = m/s
cm, after = m/s



Homework Equations


conservation of momentum? p=mv, pf=pi+I, KEf=KEi (because its elastic), Vcm=Ʃmivi/Ʃmi


The Attempt at a Solution


I have spent hours fiddling around with equations and I can't get anything to result in a correct answer. I am stumped and frustrated. This is past homework and I am just looking for an explanation on how I get from this information to the final answers. Step by step would be much appreciated, especially if you use calculus because I am lost and I am only to derivatives in calc I so far. Thank you for any and all help!
 
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Yes, conservation of energy and of momentum.
What is the total momentum before? Total energy before?
In terms of the unknown final velocities, what are the energy and momentum after collision?
What equations do you get?
 
wouldn't the before and after be the same do to conservation of momentum and energy?
so mivi^2=mfvf^2 and mivi=mfvm?
 
You have to calculate the total momentum and energy.

That is the momentum of both balls added together. The sum total is the same before and after the collision. m1*v1i + m2*v2i = m1*v1f + m2*v2f

Same with energy.

That gives you a couple of equations with two unknowns (v1f and v2f) to solve.
 
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