How Do GR and SR Influence Modern Technologies Beyond Nuclear Energy?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion explores the practical applications of General Relativity (GR) and Special Relativity (SR) beyond nuclear energy, focusing on their influence in various modern technologies and fields such as navigation, materials science, and electronics.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants mention that GPS satellites and airplane navigation systems incorporate corrections from GR and SR, although the necessity of these theories for practical corrections is debated.
  • One participant argues that the inherent inaccuracies of certain navigation systems overshadow any relativistic effects, suggesting that simpler methods are often employed.
  • There is a claim that GR is primarily utilized in astronomy and cosmology, which some participants consider to have limited practical applications.
  • Another viewpoint suggests that SR is crucial for understanding the quantum nature of materials, which impacts modern semiconductor technology.
  • Some participants speculate on the potential future applications of SR and GR, indicating that current uses may not fully capture their future relevance.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a mix of agreement and disagreement regarding the practical applications of GR and SR. While some acknowledge their roles in technologies like GPS, others question the extent of their influence in fields like aviation and materials science. The discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing views on the significance of these theories.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight limitations in current understanding and applications, noting that some technologies may rely on empirical corrections rather than a full application of relativistic theories. There is also uncertainty regarding the future implications of these theories in practical contexts.

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As someone who has never gone through a formal study of GR and SR and whose knowledge of these subjects is at the most basic level I am glad to have found this site because by reading through the threads I am able to pick up interesting snippets of information.What I would like to ask is are there any practical applications of GR and indeed SR beyond just that of nuclear energy?
 
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Dadface said:
As someone who has never gone through a formal study of GR and SR and whose knowledge of these subjects is at the most basic level I am glad to have found this site because by reading through the threads I am able to pick up interesting snippets of information.What I would like to ask is are there any practical applications of GR and indeed SR beyond just that of nuclear energy?

GPS satellites and airplane navigation systems take into account GR & SR corrections, although we would not need the theory of relativity to make these corrections i.e. the tendency of clocks to drift aboard a supersonic jet could be corrected using empirical formulae.


Mostly GR is used to understand astronomy and cosmology, which is not of any practical use.

The combination of SR and quantum mechanics (in the form of relativistic QM or as Quantum Field Theory) is used to understrand properties of matter throughout modern chemistry, materials science, electronics, etc. It has been said that if it were not for the relativistic corrections to QM, then gold would not shine (of course this is not a technology, but is meant to convey how essential it is to understand relativistic QM to understand matter).
 
Thank you confinement.I suspected that about SR but who knows what the future holds re practical uses?
 
confinement said:
GPS satellites and airplane navigation systems take into account GR & SR corrections
Airplane navigation systems? Apart from GPS, I've never heard of any other airplane navigation systems that take GR or SR into account. The inherent inaccuracy of IRS systems is way higher than any relativistic effects, and other sensors just use simple direct azimuth and distance readings from emitters on the ground, using high school math without any fancy corrections.

And at the speed of even supersonic aircraft, relativistic effects are really tiny anyway.
 
confinement said:
Mostly GR is used to understand astronomy and cosmology, which is not of any practical use.
I imagine it's probably used quite a bit for spacecraft , like the Mars probes etc... Then again. maybe even there it's probably easier to just make small ad hoc corrections instead of really using GR...
 
It got kind of hidden in confinement's post, but SR is essential to understanding the quantum nature of materials. This means that modern semi-conductor based electronics are a result of SR.

For GR I also can only think of cosmology and GPS.
 
What I would like to ask is are there any practical applications of GR and indeed SR beyond just that of nuclear energy?

Perhaps the most revolutionary application: how new ays of thinking about largely existing information can lead to incredible break throughs.
 

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