How do I find the work done for a 100 N downward force?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the work done by various forces acting on a box moving up a slope, specifically focusing on a 100 N downward force. Participants explore the relationship between force, displacement, and the angle between them in the context of work done in physics.

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  • The original poster attempts to calculate work done for different forces but expresses uncertainty about the 100 N downward force. Some participants suggest using the dot product to find work done, emphasizing the importance of the angle between force and displacement.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, with some providing hints about decomposing forces into components and using the correct equations. There is a focus on ensuring understanding of the work done formula and its application to the specific scenario presented.

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There is mention of the displacement being tangential to the slope, and participants are encouraged to consider the components of forces acting on the box. The original poster seeks verification of their calculations and guidance on the downward force specifically.

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Homework Statement
The figure shows the forces acting on a box that is being pushed up a slope. Calculate the work done by each force if the box moves 0.50m up the slope.
Relevant Equations
Work done= Force×Direction of force
I have found the work done for 100 N, 70 N and 30 N force, but I don't know how to find work for 100 N force that is acting downwards.
Force 70N:
W=F×d = 70 ×0=0 Nm (Force is perpendicular to the distance moved)
100 N force:
W=F×d=100×0.5=50 Nm
30N force:
30×-.5= -15Nm.
Please check whether these answers are right and also tell how to find the work done for 100 N force acting downwards.
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haha0p1 said:
Homework Statement:: The figure shows the forces acting on a box that is being pushed up a slope. Calculate the work done by each force if the box moves 0.50m up the slope.
Relevant Equations:: Work done= Force×Direction of force

I have found the work done for 100 N, 70 N and 30 N force, but I don't know how to find work for 100 N force that is acting downwards.
Force 70N:
W=F×d = 70 ×0=0 Nm (Force is perpendicular to the distance moved)
100 N force:
W=F×d=100×0.5=50 Nm
30N force:
30×-.5= -15Nm.
Please check whether these answers are right and also tell how to find the work done for 100 N force acting downwards. View attachment 319614
So far so good, but I see a hint of why you are having difficulties in your Relevant Equations.

The equation for the work done by a force is ##W = \textbf{F} \cdot \textbf{d}## where ##\textbf{d}## is the displacement. Using the definition of the dot product we get ##W = \textbf{F} \cdot \textbf{d} = F d ~ cos( \theta )## where ##\theta## is the (smaller) angle formed when you put the force and displacement tail to tail.

See what you can do with this. (And make sure you know how to do the other three forces this way as well.)

-Dan
 
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The displacement is tangential to the slope. The best approach is to decompose each force into its components tangential to and normal to the slope. The work done is then the product of the tangential component times the displacement.

For the first three forces, this is simple, as these forces are either normal to or tangential to the slope.

You need to decompose the ##100 \ N## force of gravity into the relevant components.
 
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Hello. Thanks for replying. I used the equation FdCostheta and found the correct answer. I also used the equation for my other three forces and found the required answers aswell.
 
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haha0p1 said:
Hello. Thanks for replying. I used the equation FdCostheta and found the correct answer. I also used the equation for my other three forces and found the required answers aswell.
The work done can be defined as the dot product of the force and dislacement vectors:
$$W = \vec F \cdot \vec s = |\vec F||\vec s| \cos \theta = Fs \cos \theta$$Note that ##F \cos \theta## is the component of the force in the direction of the displacement. And ##s## is the magnitude of th displacement.
 
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