How do I merge two age groups per 10k from an abortion rate table?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the abortion rate per 10,000 women for the combined age group of 12 to 19 by merging the rates from two separate age groups: 12-17 and 18-19. Participants explore the mathematical approach to this calculation, including the interpretation of data from a provided table.

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  • One participant proposes a method to calculate the 12-19 abortion rate by merging the rates from the 12-17 and 18-19 age groups, arriving at an initial estimate of 125.67 per 10,000.
  • Another participant introduces notations and provides calculations for the number of abortions and rates for both age groups, suggesting a combined rate of approximately 105.4 per 10,000 women.
  • Concerns are raised about the meaning of the "Distribution of abortion age" column, with some participants questioning whether it represents the fraction of total women surveyed in each age bracket and how it relates to the calculated rates.
  • There is a suggestion that if the distribution percentages are accurate, they contradict the findings based on the calculated number of women surveyed, leading to a different combined rate of approximately 162.4 per 10,000.

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Participants express uncertainty regarding the interpretation of the "Distribution of abortion age" and its implications for the calculations. Multiple competing views on the correct approach to merging the age groups and the significance of the distribution data remain unresolved.

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Participants note potential contradictions in the data regarding the distribution percentages and the calculated number of women surveyed, highlighting the complexity of the problem and the need for clarity in definitions.

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  • I would like to find the 12 to 19 abortion rate per 10,000 women from the following table:
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This would be the merging of age groups "12-17" with "18-19" to some how get the 12-19 abortion rate.
EDIT: "Distribution of abortion age" was translated from "Répartition des ges l'avortement" in French. It appears to me to be the percentage each age group's abortions are of the total amount of abortions.

The answer I came up with is 125.67 per 10,000. Not sure if that is correct.
I multiplied the rate per individual woman by the number of abortions for each group which I think gave the number of women. I added both of these groups together. I added both groups number of abortions and then divided the amount of women by amount of abortions and multiplied it by 10,000.

If you would like to answer, its probably best to focus on the math, and not politics :)
 

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Let us introduce some notations. Let age 12-17 be denoted by index 1 and age 18-19 by index 2. Let $a_i$ be the number of abortions and $r_i$ be rates for $i=1,2$. Let us express rates as absolute fractions (abortions per woman) rather than numbers per 10,000. Thus, $r_1=60.7/10,000=0.00607$. Let $w_i$ be the total number of women surveyed in each age group. Then $w_i\cdot r_i=a_i$ from where $w_i=\frac{a_i}{r_i}$. We get the following values.
\begin{align}
a_1&=10428 & r_1&=0.00607 & w_1&=a_1/r_1\approx 1,717,627\\
a_2&=13654 & r_2&=0.02409 & w_2&=a_2/r_2\approx 566,791
\end{align}

samlag said:
I multiplied the rate per individual woman by the number of abortions for each group which I think gave the number of women.
From the above, it seems that one must divide the number of abortions by the rate.

samlag said:
I added both of these groups together. I added both groups number of abortions and then divided the amount of women by amount of abortions and multiplied it by 10,000.
Here I agree. The combined rate is $$\frac{a_1+a_2}{w_1+w_2}=\frac{a_1+a_2}{a_1/r_1+a_2/r_2}\approx 0.01054$$, or 105.4 per 10,000 women.

However, I am not sure what the third column, "Distribution of abortion age", means. Let us denote it by $d_i$ so that $d_1=6.4$ and $d_2=8.3$. If it is the fraction of total women surveyed in the given age bracket, then these numbers contradict our findings. In this case $w_2/w_1$ should equal $d_2/d_1$, which is not the case for the numbers above. If, however, this is true, then the combined rate equals $$\frac{d_1r_1+d_2r_2}{d_1+d_2}\approx162.4$$ per 10,000.
 
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Evgeny.Makarov said:
However, I am not sure what the third column, "Distribution of abortion age", means. Let us denote it by $d_i$ so that $d_1=6.4$ and $d_2=8.3$.

Note that 10426 / 163652 = 6.4%.
It's the distribution of the abortions over the age groups as a percentage.
 
Evgeny.Makarov said:
However, I am not sure what the third column, "Distribution of abortion age", means. Let us denote it by $d_i$ so that $d_1=6.4$ and $d_2=8.3$. If it is the fraction of total women surveyed in the given age bracket, then these numbers contradict out findings. In this case $w_2/w_1$ should equal $d_2/d_1$, which is not the case for the numbers above. If, however, this is true, then the combined rate equals $$\frac{d_1r_1+d_2r_2}{d_1+d_2}\approx162.4$$ per 10,000.

"Distribution of abortion age" was translated from French "Répartition des ges l'avortement" which also translates to "Распределение мест абортов" and "Zetelverdeling abortus" in Dutch. It appears to me to be the percentage each age group is of the total amount of abortions.
 

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