How do I multiply 3 three digit numbers simultaneously?

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The discussion revolves around the challenge of multiplying three three-digit numbers simultaneously, exploring various methods and algorithms for achieving this task. Participants consider both theoretical approaches and practical implications of performing such multiplications without a calculator.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question the feasibility of multiplying three numbers at the same time, suggesting that the best approach may be to multiply two numbers first to obtain an intermediate product.
  • There is mention of the crosswise method for multiplying two numbers, with some participants proposing that understanding this method could aid in developing a technique for three numbers.
  • One participant claims to have created a complex algorithm for multiplying three numbers but expresses concerns about its complexity and practicality.
  • Another participant discusses the nature of multiplication as a binary operation, emphasizing the associative property that allows for sequential multiplication of pairs of numbers.
  • Some participants provide examples of how to break down the multiplication process into smaller steps, indicating that the definition of "at the same time" may vary depending on the approach taken.
  • There is a suggestion to utilize memorized multiplication tables for simpler cases, such as multiplying one-digit numbers.

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Participants generally do not agree on the possibility of multiplying three numbers simultaneously, with some asserting it is not feasible while others explore various methods and algorithms. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best approach to this problem.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about the clarity and efficiency of proposed algorithms, with some noting that reliance on working memory may complicate the process. The discussion also highlights the dependence on definitions of simultaneous multiplication.

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Forget 3-digit numbers. How would you multiply three 1-digit numbers "simultaneously"?
 
Is there any method like crosswise method of multiplication of two numbers
 
Three digits at time! In looking at an algorithm, which can be used in order to evaluate
 
So you are asking for a general algorithm that essentially allows one to compute the product of three numbers in one's head, correct?

Do you understand the crosswise method? I mean understand why it works, not just how to execute the algorithm. Why does the crosswise method for computing the product of two numbers give the correct answer? If you think about that question, it might give you some insight for creating your own method for computing "bigger" products.
 
I don't think it's possible to multiply three numbers at the same time. The best you can do is to multiply two of them to get an intermediate product, and then multiply that one times the remaining number.
 
Okay then!
 
@gopher
 
I've made an algorithm myself to overcome this task
 
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But the thing is that it's too complex
 
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What does "too complex" mean?
- Do you mean it's not clear how one is supposed to proceed? If so, you don't have a well-defined algorithm.
- Do you mean it requires too much working memory to use in practice? If so, change your algorithm to involve writing more things down, so you have less reliance on working memory.
- Do you mean it takes too long? If so, you may just be SOL. If I had to multiply three three-digit numbers without a calculator, it would take me quite a while. Maybe there's a more efficient (i.e. fewer steps, or easier steps) algorithm you can find, maybe not.
 
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Mark44 said:
I don't think it's possible to multiply three numbers at the same time. The best you can do is to multiply two of them to get an intermediate product, and then multiply that one times the remaining number.

why not?

(100*a+10*b+c)(100*d+10*e+f)(100*g+10*h+i) = 1000000 a d g+100000 a d h+10000 a d i+100000 a e g+10000 a e h+1000 a e i+10000 a f g+1000 a f h+100 a f i+100000 b d g+10000 b d h+1000 b d i+10000 b e g+1000 b e h+100 b e i+1000 b f g+100 b f h+10 b f i+10000 c d g+1000 c d h+100 c d i+1000 c e g+100 c e h+10 c e i+100 c f g+10 c f h+c f i

you can look up the one digit multiplications in a table.
 
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Put the calculator in your head.
That's how you do it.
 
  • #14
willem2 said:
1000000 a d g

That's the first multiplication.

100000 a d h

That's the second multiplication.

10000 a d i

That's third, and so on.

Three consecutive multiplications already, and we are still far from the final result.

Basically it depends on how you define "at the same time".
 
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To add to what Borek said, to do the first multiplication (1000000 a d g) you would probably multiply a and d together, and then multiply that by g, and finally multiply that by 1000000. Multiplication is a binary operation, meaning that it operates on two numbers. That's what I was talking about in post #6.

To multiply three numbers, you can use the fact that multiplication is associative (i.e., (ab)c = a(bc)) to multiply a pair of the numbers and then multiply that product by the third.
 
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Mark44 said:
To add to what Borek said, to do the first multiplication (1000000 a d g) you would probably multiply a and d together, and then multiply that by g, and finally multiply that by 1000000. Multiplication is a binary operation, meaning that it operates on two numbers. That's what I was talking about in post #6.

To multiply three numbers, you can use the fact that multiplication is associative (i.e., (ab)c = a(bc)) to multiply a pair of the numbers and then multiply that product by the third.

If I multiply two 1 digit numbers, I just use memorized multiplication tables. You could do that with multiplying 3 1 digit numbers also. Mulitiplying with at million is just a left shift.
 

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