How Do I Prove the Laplace Transform Formula for Functions with Finite Jumps?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the Laplace transform, specifically focusing on the transformation of the product of functions, such as sin(t) and cos(t), and the implications of finite jumps in functions. Participants explore methods for proving the Laplace transform formula and the application of various rules in the context of functions with discontinuities.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about the method to solve the Laplace transform of sin(t) * cos(t) and mentions a specific answer.
  • Another participant references the property of Laplace transforms regarding the multiplication of functions, suggesting a different result for the transform of sin(t) * cos(t).
  • A participant questions whether the shift rule must be used or if the functions can be separated and solved individually before multiplication.
  • Clarification is sought regarding the meaning of the asterisk in the context of convolution versus multiplication.
  • A participant suggests using the definition of the Laplace transform and proposes integration by parts as a method for solving the transform of sin(t) * cos(t).
  • Another participant notes that sin(t) * cos(t) can be expressed as (1/2)sin(2t), which may simplify the problem.
  • A separate inquiry is made about proving a specific Laplace transform formula for functions with finite jumps, highlighting the continuity of the function except at a point of discontinuity.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the methods to approach the Laplace transform of the product of functions, with no consensus on the best approach or the implications of using specific rules. The discussion regarding the proof of the transform for functions with finite jumps also remains unresolved.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations regarding the assumptions made about the continuity of functions and the definitions of operations such as convolution versus multiplication, which are not fully resolved in the discussion.

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how do i go about solving the laplace transform of sint * cost ?

i know the answer becomes 1/(s^2 + 4) but what is the method?

thanks.
 
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do you know that
\mathcal{L}\{f(t)*g(t)\} = \mathcal{L}\{f(t)\} \cdot \mathcal{L}\{g(t)\} = F(s) \cdot G(s)

and i think the answer comes out to be \frac{s}{{\left(s^2+1\right)}^2}
 
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yes i did know that but i didnt think it was as simple as that. From reading the certain rules we can apply to problems e.g the shift rule to solve L(sin2t * e^3t) do we HAVE to use the shift rule or can we separate each part and solve then multiply them together?
 
i am sorry. do you mean convolution by the asterisk? or do you mean multiplication? what i said in my last post is only correct if the asterisk means convolution.
 
i meant multiplication
 
Then use the definition
\mathcal{L}(sin(x)cos(x)}= \int_0^{\infnty}e^{-st}sin(t)cos(t)dt
which can be done by integration by parts.
 
Mybe it would help to notice that sin(t)cos(t) is equal to \frac{1}{2}sin(2t)
 
I want to ask about a proof of this transform: L{(f(t)}= sF(s) - f(0) - f(a^+) - f(a^-) - exp^(-as) inwhich f(t) is continuous except for an ordinary discontinuity (finite jump) at t=a, a>0
 
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