How do I remove copper from water (be realistic)

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The discussion centers on the challenges of removing copper from distilled water produced using a copper condenser. Participants agree that copper ions are difficult to eliminate from solution and suggest that the best solution is to avoid using copper altogether. Alternatives include using glass equipment or a home reverse osmosis (RO) kit, which can be purchased for under $100. The conversation also touches on the ineffectiveness of citric acid for passivating copper and mentions the potential use of zeolites for removing copper ions.

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I made a distillation rig, and it works fairly ok for the most part. The problem is that the condenser is made of copper, and it leaves a strong copper taste in the product.
How can I remove the copper from the water? When I say be realistic, I mean don't suggest something like "oh run it through a $1000 deionizer you find a lab" sort of deal.
 
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sure, just distill the water again...just kidding.

copper ions are not going to come out of solution easily. doing some kind of reaction to get them to precipitate out will ruin the drinking water further.

you are going to need one of those $1000 barnstead units i guess.

the only realistic option is to not use copper, or to at least flush the copper out really well since it is obviously corroding. many households have plumbing made of copper, yet it doesn't affect the quality of the water unless the copper is being oxidized. just use glass, it will work better anyway.
 
For about $100 or less, you can buy a home RO kit. These are typically not great at removing most metal ions. Have you thought about adding EDTA ? I think RO kits are pretty good at taking out EDTA complexes. This is just a thought, so you might want to look into it further.
 
Can you passivate copper in the same manner as you can stainless steel? Using a nitric or citric acid bath?

- Warren
 
chroot said:
Can you passivate copper in the same manner as you can stainless steel? Using a nitric or citric acid bath?

- Warren

In a word nope. Nitric acid will dissolve the Cu and any complexes formed with citrate will be water soluble.

ShawnD if you must use copper (I am clueless as to why), there are various zeolites that can be used to remove transition metal (including Cu+/2+). Google it ;)
 
chroot said:
Can you passivate copper in the same manner as you can stainless steel? Using a nitric or citric acid bath?

- Warren
It's a little harder than that. Yes, copper can be passivated well enough that it won't be dissolved much by distilled water. I know for sure that citric acid does not work for passivating copper - though it works well for cleaning it. Not sure about nitric acid, but I have my doubts. I know there are commercially available solvents for passivating copper. One that I know works pretty well has a name that is basically "M" followed by some number (and/or more letters).
 

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