How do I solve 2x/7 = 2x^2 using division and substitution?

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The discussion revolves around solving the equation 2x/7 = 2x^2, with participants exploring various methods of division and substitution. The conversation includes attempts to simplify the equation, as well as considerations of potential solutions and the implications of dividing by variables.

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  • Mathematical reasoning
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant initially presents the equation 2x/7 = 2x^2 without any prior attempts to solve it.
  • Another participant emphasizes the importance of showing previous work to facilitate guidance and suggests that the original poster clarify their thought process.
  • A participant describes their approach of dividing both sides by 2 and then by x, leading to the conclusion that x = 7.
  • Another participant challenges the validity of x = 7 by substituting it back into the original equation, revealing a contradiction.
  • Concerns are raised about the implications of dividing by x, particularly regarding the potential loss of the solution x = 0.
  • One participant suggests considering two cases: one where x = 0 and another where x is not equal to zero, indicating that the quadratic nature of the equation suggests multiple solutions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the validity of the solution x = 7, with some agreeing that it is incorrect while others defend their approach. There is no consensus on the best method to solve the equation or the implications of dividing by x.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the need to be cautious when dividing by variables, as it can eliminate potential solutions. The discussion also reflects varying levels of understanding regarding the treatment of quadratic equations and the implications of division in algebraic manipulation.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for students learning algebra, particularly those grappling with solving equations involving variables and understanding the implications of division in mathematical reasoning.

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So here is the question:
2x/7=2x^2
 
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Re: Help Please :)

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Re: Help Please :)

MarkFL said:
When our members post questions, we expect for them to show what they have tried, or what they think they should do, or at the very least state that they simply have no idea how to begin. This way our helpers no where the person is stuck and can offer guidance at that point.

Can you show what you have tried and where you are stuck?

Absolutely, I have tried to break up the right side of the equation, so that the equation looks like: 2x/7= (2x)(2x)
After this, I divided each side by 2x:
(2x/7)/2x=(2x^2)/2x
After that, I'm pretty stuck.
 
The first thing I would do is observe that both sides have 2 as a factor, so I would divide through by 2. What does your equation look like now?
 
MarkFL said:
The first thing I would do is observe that both sides have 2 as a factor, so I would divide through by 2. What does your equation look like now?

Starting from the beginning or where I currently have the equation?

Alright, maybe I figured it out. I got x=7. Let me explain:
2x/7=2x^2 Divide each side by two
(2x/7)/2=(2x^2)/2 simplify to:
x/7=x^2 Divide each side by x
(x/7)/x= (x^2)/x Simplify to:
7=x
 
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I'm sorry, from the beginning:

$$\frac{2x}{7}=2x^2$$
 
MarkFL said:
I'm sorry, from the beginning:

$$\frac{2x}{7}=2x^2$$

Alright, maybe I figured it out. I got x=7. Let me explain:
2x/7=2x^2
Divide each side by two
(2x/7)/2=(2x^2)/2
simplify to:
x/7=x^2
Divide each side by x
(x/7)/x= (x^2)/x
Simplify to:
7=x

I'm a bit confused on when you can cancel while dividing. Is it just when the top & bottom mach because they would just equal one?
 
Well, $x=7$ does not work...try substituting it into the original equation and you will find:

$$\frac{2(7)}{7}=2(7)^2$$

$$2=98$$

This is not true, so that solution must be incorrect. Also since the equation is quadratic, you should expect to find 2 solutions. When you divide through by $x$ you need to be aware that you are eliminating $x=0$ as a solution. I don't like to tell students to divide through by $x$ at this level of math, although opinions on this will vary.

So, you did correctly divide through by 2 to obtain:

$$\frac{x}{7}=x^2$$

Next, I suggest multiplying through by 7 to get rid of that denominator...what do you get?
 
babcockkw said:
Alright, maybe I figured it out. I got x=7. Let me explain:
2x/7=2x^2
Divide each side by two
(2x/7)/2=(2x^2)/2
simplify to:
x/7=x^2
Divide each side by x
(x/7)/x= (x^2)/x
Simplify to: (mistake going from above to below)
7=x

I'm a bit confused on when you can cancel while dividing. Is it just when the top & bottom mach because they would just equal one?

And for the record, this approach is essentially correct (with MarkFL's warning that dividing by zero implies that x is not zero, so you need to take that into account and check whether zero is in fact a solution, this often confuses students and so is not generally taught until later) but you made a mistake in your computation (in red), leading you to a wrong solution. Can you see the error?​
 
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Hello,
This how I would solve it:) (I Will explain with words) When you divide by x you can think Two case cause if you type 3/0 in your calculator it Will give you 'undefined' so we can think like Two case. (Notice you got x^2 that means you Will get more Then one soloution)
case 1:
when x=0. That one is pretty simple, just replace x with 0 and look if it's true. In your equation you Will get 0=0 and that is true, that means we got à soloution when x is 0!:)
Case 2
when x is NOT equal to zero. That means you can divide by x:) post when you got soloution or need help or got any question:)
 
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