Need assistance with an unusual quadratic solution method

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The discussion revolves around an unusual method for solving quadratic equations, specifically a substitution method attributed to Francois Viete. Participants explore the steps involved in this method, compare it to the quadratic formula, and discuss its historical context and relevance in modern education.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes Viete's method of substituting y + k for x to eliminate the linear term in a quadratic equation, seeking clarification on its application.
  • Another participant provides a worked example using the substitution method, showing the transformation of the equation and arriving at the roots.
  • A third participant expresses a preference for the quadratic formula, suggesting it is easier than Viete's method.
  • One participant argues that the method is not strange, relating it to the standard process of completing the square and deriving the quadratic formula.
  • Another participant notes that the method of making a linear change of variable to remove the linear term is a common technique, comparing it to completing the square.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing opinions on the strangeness of the method, with some finding it standard while others view it as unusual. There is no consensus on the preferred method for solving quadratics, as preferences for the quadratic formula versus Viete's method are evident.

Contextual Notes

Some participants highlight the historical context of the method and its relevance in modern education, noting that contemporary teaching often focuses on the results rather than the methods used to derive them.

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I have come across this strange method of solving degree 2 polynomials but I do not find the explanation provided to be very helpful.
I have come across this strange method of solving degree 2 polynomials but I do not find the explanation provided to be very helpful. Here is the method description:

"In the 16th century, mathematician Francois Viete solved quadratic equations by a unique substitution method. To solve an equation such as x^2 + 6x + 7 he substituted y + k for x, where k was a number to be determined. He then rearranged the equation as a quadratic in y and chose a value for k so that the coefficient of the linear term was zero. It was then an easy matter to solve for y, and then by adding the chosen value of k, the roots of the original equation were obtained."

I do not fully understand the steps described here and would like to see an example of this solution being applied to the equation x^2 + 6x + 7 = 0.
 
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x=y+k
(y+k)^2+6(y+k)+7=0
y^2+(2k+6)y+k^2+6k+7=0
Say 2k+6=0, k=-3
y^2=2
y=\pm \sqrt{2}
x=y+k=-3\pm \sqrt{2}
 
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With the substitution ##x=y+k## the equation becomes $$(y+k)^2+6(y+k)+7=0$$ $$y^2+(6+2k)y+7+k^2+6k=0$$ choosing ##k=-3## gives $$y^2-2=0$$so ##y=\pm\sqrt2## and the solution is $$x=-3\pm\sqrt2$$
I think the quadratic formula is easier!

oops well its good we agree!
 
I do not think this method is strange or unusual.
ax^2+bx+c=0
Applying this method
a(x+\frac{b}{2a})^2=\frac{b^2}{4a}-c=\frac{b^2-4ac}{4a}
x+\frac{b}{2a}=\pm\sqrt{\frac{b^2-4ac}{4a^2}}
x=\frac{-b\pm \sqrt{b^2-4ac}}{2a}
We get usual formula.

EDIT And I do not find any other way to derive the formula.
 
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This is "making a linear change of variable to remove the linear term", ie. one of the standard methods of solving an arbitrary quadratic.

The other, "completing the square", is essentially the same, where we use the fact that (x + a)^2 = x^2 + 2ax + a^2 to make an intelligent guess as to what k is going to be.

Nowadays, of course, we don't teach these methods, but only the result of applying them to an arbitrary quadratic (ie. the standard formula).
 

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