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How do I solve z^4+16=0 in a+bi form. I don't see how it can be factored so what do I do?
The discussion centers on solving the equation z4 + 16 = 0 in the form a + bi. Participants explore various methods, including polar form, factoring, and de Moivre's theorem, while addressing the complexities involved in the conversion between forms and the interpretation of results.
Participants do not reach a consensus on the easiest method to solve the equation, with multiple competing views and approaches presented throughout the discussion.
There are unresolved mathematical steps and varying interpretations of the methods discussed, particularly in the conversion between forms and the implications of different angles in polar coordinates.
Readers interested in complex numbers, polar coordinates, and methods for solving polynomial equations may find this discussion beneficial.
Raerin said:How do I solve z^4+16=0 in a+bi form. I don't see how it can be factored so what do I do?
ZaidAlyafey said:Now you can consider $$2(1+i)^2= 2(1+2i+i^2)=4i$$
Raerin said:I don't understand this part.
Is Serena's way easier? Though, I don't really know how to convert it into polar form.
I like Serena said:I think my way is easier...
Let's start with the modulus.
What is the modulus of $-16$?
Now suppose that the modulus of $z$ is $r$.
What should $r$ be?
Raerin said:I don't understand this part.
Is Serena's way easier? Though, I don't really know how to convert it into polar form.
Raerin said:(-16)^2 = sqrt(256) = 16?
I like Serena said:Yep.
Now we're looking for a modulus $r$ for $z$ such that $r^4 = 16$...
Raerin said:r=2
I like Serena said:Exactly!
Now let's look at the angle.
Which angle would the number $-16$ have?
Raerin said:180 degrees?
I like Serena said:Right!
Now suppose $z$ has an angle $\phi$.
Then $z^4$ has an angle $4\phi$.
What should $\phi$ be?
ZaidAlyafey said:Apply the expansion for $(x+y)^2=x^2+2xy+y^2$. Since we are looking at the roots of the equation $$z^4=-16$$ and since $(z^2-4i)(z^2+4i)=0$ we have either $$z^2=4i$$ or $$z^2=-4i$$
Now since for $z=\sqrt{2}(1+i)$ we have $$z^2=2(1+2i-1)=4i$$ then
$$z=\sqrt{2}(1+i)$$ is a solution. Similarily we have $z=-\sqrt{2}(1+i)$ as a solution. Using the same manner solve for $z$ the equation $$z^2=-4i$$.
Raerin said:720?
I like Serena said:Not quite.
We have that $4\phi=180^\circ$.
Does that work with $\phi=720^\circ$?
Raerin said:oh so the angle is 45?
I like Serena said:Yes.
There you go. We now have 1 solution in polar form.
It has modulus $2$ and angle $45^\circ$.
Can you think of a complex number in the form $a+bi$ that corresponds to it?
Raerin said:z = sqrt(2) + sqrt(2)i?
Yep, I did! I just didn't understand how they got to that conclusion from z^2=4iI like Serena said:Yes! :D
Do you recognize the value for $z$ that ZaidAlyafey[/color] came up with?
Perhaps you might calculate $(\sqrt 2 + (\sqrt 2)i)^4$ to verify that it really is a solution?Btw, there are 3 more solutions.
That is because $4\phi=180^\circ$ has more solutions.
If $4\phi = 360^\circ + 180^\circ$, we have the same angle but a different $\phi$...
Raerin said:Yep, I did! I just didn't understand how they got to that conclusion from z^2=4i
ZaidAlyafey said:Squaring $$\sqrt{\frac{x}{2}}(1+i)$$, we can generate any purely imaginary complex number.