How Do Ks0 Values of MnCO3(s) Differ in Freshwater and Estuarine Waters?

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The discussion revolves around comparing the Ks0 values of MnCO3(s) in freshwater and estuarine waters at 25°C, specifically focusing on the implications of varying ionic strength on Mn2+ concentration and activity when CO32- concentration is held constant at 10^-6 M. The conversation includes aspects of chemical equilibrium and solubility product calculations.

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Main Points Raised

  • Participants discuss the relationship between the concentration of CO32- and Mn2+ based on the dissolution equation of MnCO3(s).
  • Some participants propose using an ICE table to analyze the equilibrium, while others suggest that it may not be necessary for this problem.
  • There is a calculation of Ksp values, with one participant initially confused about the correct value, later clarifying it to be 2.2 x 10^-11.
  • One participant questions whether Ksp and Ks0 are interchangeable, leading to a discussion about their definitions and usage in the context of the problem.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the necessity of using an ICE table and the interpretation of Ksp versus Ks0. There is no consensus on the best approach to solve the problem, as some participants advocate for a straightforward calculation while others suggest a more detailed analysis.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not fully resolved the implications of ionic strength on the solubility product and how it may affect the calculations for freshwater versus estuarine waters. The discussion includes assumptions about the saturation of the solution and the relationship between the concentrations of the ions involved.

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Homework Statement


compare the Ks0 values of MnCO3(s) in fresh water (I=0) and in estuarine waters (I=0.08) at 25°C. If each of the waters contained a concentration of CO32- equal to 10-6M and MnCO3(s) controls the Mn solubility, what is the Mn2+ concentration in each water? What is the Mn2+ activity in each water?

Homework Equations


MnCO3 (s) = Mn2+ (aq) + CO32- (aq)

Ks0 = {Mn2+}{CO32-} / {MnCO3 (s)}

Ks0 = yMn2+[Mn2+] yCO32-[CO32-]

The Attempt at a Solution


Not sure how to start. Any suggestions are greatly appreciated!
 
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Maybe I'm just not understanding what the problem means. Does it mean if [CO32-] is 10-6M and the ratio of CO32- to Mn2+ is 1:1 in the chemical equation then [Mn2+] is also 10-6M? Is this how others are interpreting the problem?
 
Calculate concentration of Mn2+ assuming solution is saturated AND concentration of CO32- is 10-6.
 
Then an ICE table should be used? Something like this?
____________MnCO3 (s)__________Mn2+ (aq)________CO32- (aq)

Initial___________solid______________0_______________10-6M

Change__________-x_______________+x__________________+x

Equilibrium______-x_______________+x______________10-6M + x
 
No, no need for ICE table.

Write formula for Ksp. You know Ksp value, you know concentration of CO32-, the only unknown is the concentration of Mn2+. And solving for the concentration of Mn2+ is trivial.
 
Ksp = [Mn2+][CO32-]
Ksp = [x][x]
x= 10-6M
Ksp = (10^-6M)(10^-6M)
Ksp = 1.0x10^-12

Is this right?
 
No, you are doing strange things. That means you are completely confused about something.

First - find Ksp value in the Ksp tables. What is the value?
 
Ohh I see what you're saying not, Ksp is 2.2 x 10-11.
 
Now plug the Ksp and CO32- concentration into Ksp formula, and solve for the only unknown.
 
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Gotcha, that's simple! I was over thinking it. Thank you oh mighty chemistry guy. So in my above equation Ks0 = yMn2+[Mn2+] yCO32-[CO32-], can Ksp be put in for Ks0?

2.2x10^-11 = [Mn2+] (10^-6M)
2.2x10^-5 = [Mn2+]
 
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As far as I can tell Ksp and Kso are different symbols used for exactly the same constant.

Just in case someone wonder what your equation means. I guess it is

K_{sp} = \gamma_{Mn^{2+}}[Mn^{2+}]\gamma_{CO_3^{2-}}[CO_3^{2-}]
 

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