How Do Special Relativity and Mechanics Explain These Physics Puzzles?

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The discussion revolves around two physics problems involving kinematics and special relativity. The first problem concerns the motion of an apple dropped from a bridge in relation to a moving truck, while the second involves the observations of two individuals, one stationary and one moving at relativistic speeds, regarding time and motion.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the application of kinematic equations to the first problem, questioning how to incorporate the truck's velocity and the height of the railing. The second problem raises questions about the implications of relativistic speeds on time perception.

Discussion Status

Some participants have offered hints and guidance on how to approach the first problem, suggesting a focus on the motion of the apple and the timing of the truck's movement. Others are exploring their understanding of the second problem but have not yet articulated specific questions.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about visualizing the problems and applying physics concepts correctly. There is mention of needing to clarify the relationship between the apple's fall and the truck's movement, as well as the assumptions regarding the speed of light in the second problem.

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Homework Statement



Hey guys! I'm at loss what to do for these 2 problems, have no idea how to start and what equations to use.
First
Person standing on a bridge overlooking a highway drops an apple over the railing just as the front end of a truck passes directly below the railing. If the vehicle is moving at 55 km/h and is 12 m long, how far above the truck must the railing be if the apple just misses hitting the rear end of the truck?

Second.
There is a boy and a girl, both have mirrors and a skateboard, the boy does not move while the girl moves with the use of skateboard. Boy observes the girl's time to stop in the limit in which she moves at the speed of light and she also comes to the same conclusion about the boy

How does the boy(and the girl) come to that conclusion?

The Attempt at a Solution


Obviously we should use the equations for position velocity and acceleration, problem is, how do I apply those?
 
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For the first problem, think of how the apple will move. More specifically think of the position, velocity, and acceleration when it rolls of the railing. Once you think of this, see if you can solve it. If not, perhaps we can get you another hint.

Second.
There is a boy and a girl, both have mirrors and a skateboard, the boy does not move while the girl moves with the use of skateboard. Boy observes the girl's time to stop in the limit in which she moves at the speed of light and she also comes to the same conclusion

This doesn't have a question to it. I don't know how to help you without a question.
 
Fixed OP with a question, sorry my bad!
 
what I have most troubles with is picturing the problem, what i mean by that is i have no idea how to imagine this problem and how to apply physics to it.

if an apple is hit from the bridge, the position is
x=v0t-((gt^2):2), no?
Isnt an apple a freely falling body?in that case a=g so my formula should be correct.
but what then? where do i apply velocity of the truck and its height?
 
http://www.mediafire.com/imageview.php?quickkey=naki9m78phfyuzp
basically what my friend drew to illustrate the problem
so as i understood correctly, a guy on the bridge throws an apple just as front of the car reaches the point where the apple is being shot at, and at the end, apple barely touches the end of the truck, and we have to measure distance between truck and railing
do i understand this correctly?
 
Yes, you do.
 
pretty much my thinking(or absence of it)
so while ball was thrown down, the car has moved 12 meters, if we find the interval during which the car drove those 12 meters, we can apply this time to time which the ball has been in air, and by knowing time, we can find V0(innitial velocity) , after that we can find
distance by S=v0t-0.5gt^2
i know I am wrong(cuz my calculations are stupid), but please point out where i am wrong, also how do we find time by which car has moved 12 meters since we only know his velocity and not acceleration?

edit:
well i found the S to be around 3.08 meters
t=12 m /15.27 m/s
g=v0/t
v0=7.70 m/s
s=v0t-0.5gt^2=3.08 m
 
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