How Do We Calculate the Composite Spin of a System with Three or More Particles?

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The discussion centers on calculating the composite spin of a system with three or more particles, exploring theoretical frameworks and methodologies for determining possible spin values and their representations. The scope includes theoretical considerations and mathematical reasoning related to quantum mechanics and spin systems.

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  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant outlines that for two particles with spins s1 and s2, the composite system can have spins ranging from s1+s2 to |s2-s1|, and questions how this extends to three or more particles.
  • Another participant suggests that spins can be added one at a time, providing an example with three spin-1/2 particles and mentioning the use of 6j symbols to relate different groupings of spins.
  • A different participant reiterates the spin range for two particles and discusses the complexity of determining the minimum spin for three or more particles, noting that for identical spins, the minimum total spin is zero for even N and s for odd N.
  • Another contribution mentions the use of "Weyl diagrams" to obtain irreducible representations for the spin of n particles, particularly for identical particles, and connects this to the representations of the group SU(2) and the permutation group S_n.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express various methods and considerations for calculating composite spins, but there is no consensus on a single approach or resolution to the complexities involved, particularly regarding minimum spin values and degeneracies.

Contextual Notes

Some limitations include the dependence on specific particle types (fermions vs. bosons), the complexity of determining minimum spin values in general cases, and the unresolved nature of analytical expressions for more than four spins.

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When there are two particles with spin s1 and s2 the composite system has possible spins s1+s2 all the way down to |s2-s1| (using integer steps). The azimuthal quantum number goes from s1+s2 to -s1+s2 (using integer steps).

Now my question is if we had three particles (or more) how would we calculate their possible composite spin?
 
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Hi Xian,

You add the spins one at a time. For example, 1/2 \otimes 1/2 = 0 \oplus 1 and 1/2 \otimes 1/2 \otimes 1/2 = (0 \oplus 1 )\otimes 1/2 = 1/2 \oplus 1/2 \oplus 3/2. Basically you're doing the analog of distributing multiplication over addition. There are several different ways to group the spins in the 3 spin case, and the different choices are related by 6j symbols. Hopefully you can now figure out the generalization to N spins.

Hope this helps.
 
Xian said:
When there are two particles with spin s1 and s2 the composite system has possible spins s1+s2 all the way down to |s2-s1| (using integer steps). The azimuthal quantum number goes from s1+s2 to -s1+s2 (using integer steps).

Now my question is if we had three particles (or more) how would we calculate their possible composite spin?

The maximum value of the spins is the same (i.e. the sum of all of the spins), and assuming , all values represented by integer steps (or half integer, if you are mixing fermions and bosons), are possible down to the minimum value. However, the minimum value (which obviously cannot be less than zero) is more complicated to determine in general. Some simple cases are easier to determine, such as the case of N particles each with the same spin s, in which case the minimum total spin will be zero for even N, and s for odd N. Where things really get complicated is with the degeneracies of the different total spin values. I know that analytical expressions exist for up to 4 spins (9-J symbols), but beyond that I am not sure.
 
There exists a relatively easy way to obtain all the irreducible representations for the spin of n particles using so called "Weyl diagrams", at least for identical particles which is possibly the most important case. It makes use of the fact that the irreducible representations of the group SU(2) can be labeled by Young type diagrams pertaining to the Young type diagrams of the permutation group S_n of the n particles.
 

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