How Do You Calculate Angles AEC and ADC in Geometry?

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The discussion revolves around calculating angles AEC and ADC in a geometry problem involving circle theorems and the alternate segment theorem. Participants are analyzing the relationships between various angles based on given values and geometric properties.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants present their reasoning for calculating angles based on the alternate segment theorem and relationships between angles on a straight line. Some question the validity of certain angle measures based on the properties of inscribed angles and the information provided about the circle.

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There is an ongoing exploration of the relationships between angles, with some participants offering reasoning and others questioning the assumptions made. A few angles have been identified as potentially determinable, but there is no consensus on the overall approach or the correctness of all calculations.

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Participants note the lack of information regarding whether line AC is a diameter of the circle, which affects the validity of certain angle relationships. The discussion also highlights the implications of the alternate segment theorem in determining angle measures.

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Homework Statement
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Relevant Equations
Deductive Geometry- Alternate segment theorem
Question;

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Text Solution;

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My reasoning;
##∠ABC= 180^0 -(32^0+60^0)##
=##88^0##

##∠ABC=∠ACF=88^0## (Alternate segment theorem).

##∠EBC=92^0## i.e angles lying on a straight line and ##∠BCE=180^0 -(88^0+60^0)=32^0## therefore;
##∠BEC=180^0 -(32^0+92^0)=56^0##
##∠ECA=∠ADC=32^0+60^0=92^0## (by Alternate segment theorem).

Cheers...there may be another way of looking at this...
 
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Regarding ##∠EBC=92^0##:
Doesn't the problem figure contradicts the fact that an angle inscribed across a circle's diameter is always a right angle?
 
Lnewqban said:
Regarding ##∠EBC=92^0##:
Doesn't the problem figure contradicts the fact that an angle inscribed across a circle's diameter is always a right angle?
...but we are not told if ##AC## is the diameter of the circle. We have only been given an indication of the tangent line, that is line ##ECF##.
 
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Lnewqban said:
Regarding ##∠EBC=92^0##:
Doesn't the problem figure contradicts the fact that an angle inscribed across a circle's diameter is always a right angle?
AC isn't a diameter, that was never mentioned
 
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chwala said:
Homework Statement:: See attached
Relevant Equations:: Deductive Geometry- Alternate segment theorem

Question;

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Text Solution;

View attachment 315299

My reasoning;
##∠ABC= 180^0 -(32^0+60^0)##
=##88^0##

##∠ABC=∠ACF=88^0## (Alternate segment theorem).

##∠EBC=92^0## i.e angles lying on a straight line and ##∠BCE=180^0 -(88^0+60^0)=32^0## therefore;
##∠BEC=180^0 -(32^0+92^0)=56^0##
##∠ECA=∠ADC=32^0+60^0=92^0## (by Alternate segment theorem).

Cheers...there may be another way of looking at this...
You are correct that angles ##∠ACF=88^\circ## and ##∠EBC=92^\circ## .
However, your reasoning leading to determining angle ##∠BCE## is faulty, because you do not know a value for angle ##∠ACF## either.

An angle you can easily determine is ##∠ADC##. (There's a cyclic quadrilateral involved.)
 
SammyS said:
You are correct that angles ##∠ACF=88^\circ## and ##∠EBC=92^\circ## .
However, your reasoning leading to determining angle ##∠BCE## is faulty, because you do not know a value for angle ##∠ACF## either.

An angle you can easily determine is ##∠ADC##. (There's a cyclic quadrilateral involved.)
@sammy but we know that ##∠ECA=∠ADC## using the alternate segment theorem. Angle ##BCE=32^0.## I do not need ##∠ACF## to determine this.
 
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...Just thinking is it possible to determine all the angles in the given diagram? my thinking is as shown on the diagram below;

My reasoning being ##∠EBC## is similar to ##∠ADC## they have a common angle i.e ##92^0##.

##∠CAD=DCF=BEC=56^0##

##∠ACD=88^0 - ∠DCF=32^0##
 

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chwala said:
@sammy but we know that ##∠ECA=∠ADC## using the alternate segment theorem. Angle ##BCE=32^0.## I do not need ##∠ACF## to determine this.
Apologies !

I overlooked your reasoning establishing that ##∠ABC=∠ACF## .
 
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chwala said:
...Just thinking is it possible to determine all the angles in the given diagram? my thinking is as shown on the diagram below;

My reasoning being ##∠EBC## is similar to ##∠ADC## they have a common angle i.e ##92^0##.

##∠CAD=DCF=BEC=56^0##

##∠ACD=88^0 - ∠DCF=32^0##

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Yes, ##∠CAD=∠DCF## .

But no, you can not determine ##∠ACD## , ##∠CAD## , nor ##∠DCF## .
 

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