How do you calculate half-life for radioactive isotopes?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the half-life of radioactive isotopes, specifically Ra-226 and Cu-64, using given activity and mass data. Participants are exploring the relationships between activity, number of atoms, and half-life in the context of radioactive decay.

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  • Participants discuss using the mass of a sample to find the number of atoms and how this relates to half-life. There are questions about the relevance of certain information provided in the problem and whether it is necessary for solving the questions. Some participants express confusion about the mathematical methods involved, particularly integrals and decay rates.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing various perspectives on the problem setup and the information needed to calculate half-life. Some guidance has been offered regarding the relationships between activity, number of atoms, and half-life, but there is no clear consensus on the necessity of all given data or the methods to be employed.

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Participants are navigating the complexities of radioactive decay calculations, including the use of Avogadro's number and the implications of different isotopes. There is an ongoing debate about the sufficiency of the provided information and the assumptions that can be made in the calculations.

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I got an exam tomorrow, and since I missed the last week, I don't really know how to solve questions like these:

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1 gramm of Ra-226 radiates 3,7*10^10 alpha-particles in a second. Find out the half-life period of Ra-226.

We produce a radioactive Cu-64 and seal it. After 20 days, the activity is 20 Bq. What was the mass in gramm of the Cu-64 when we produced it?

Answers and explanations would be greatly appreciated, :approve:

Thanks,

Pear
 
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1) You have the mass of the sample, so from this you can find the number of atoms in the sample. This, with activity, can be used to find half-life.
2)Reverse that for the copper (though you'll need to look up half-life for Cu-64).
 
i don't think i understand.. can you explain more please?
 
What don't you understand? If you don't know the formula for finding the number of atoms in a sample given its gram atomic weight and mass, you should be able to find it in your book. The same goes for half life if given the activity and number of atoms.
 
boredooom said:
1 gramm of Ra-226 radiates 3,7*10^10 alpha-particles in a second. Find out the half-life period of Ra-226.

The problem is difficult because you are given useless information. Try doing it with this information:

1 gramm radiates 3,7*10^10 alpha-particles in a second. Find out the half-life
Half-life means you have 0.5g left
 
ShawnD said:
The problem is difficult because you are given useless information. Try doing it with this information:


Half-life means you have 0.5g left

What part of the given information is useless?
 
OlderDan said:
What part of the given information is useless?

You don't need to know which element or isotope is decaying.
 
ShawnD said:
You don't need to know which element or isotope is decaying.

You might want to rethink that. The half-life depends on the fraction of the available nuclei that decay each second.
 
OlderDan said:
You might want to rethink that. The half-life depends on the fraction of the available nuclei that decay each second.

I understand where you are coming from, but doing it that way would require doing an integral, which seems a few grades higher than the source of this question.

your way would be something like this (the E means 10 to the power of the next number):
(6.02E23)/226 = 2.66E21 atoms; the first number is the AMU equivalent of 1g
(3.7E10)/(2.66E21) = 1.389e-11 decaying per atom per second (each decay has a mass of 4)

I never really got the hang of integrals but this is the best I can do (which is wrong).
[tex]\int^{?}_{0} (4)(1.389E^{-11})(2.66E^{21})((1) - (1.389E^{-11}))^{t} dt[/tex]
= (0.5)(6.02E23)
It's confusing as hell. How do I subtract the amount of decayed atoms from the nondecayed?
 
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ShawnD said:
I understand where you are coming from, but doing it that way would require doing an integral, which seems a few grades higher than the source of this question.

your way would be something like this (the E means 10 to the power of the next number):
(6.02E23)/226 = 2.66E21 atoms; the first number is the AMU equivalent of 1g
(3.7E10)/(2.66E21) = 1.389e-11 decaying per atom per second (each decay has a mass of 4)

I never really got the hang of integrals but this is the best I can do (which is wrong).
[tex]\int^{?}_{0} (4)(1.389E^{-11})(2.66E^{21})((1) - (1.389E^{-11}))^{t} dt[/tex]
= (0.5)(6.02E23)
It's confusing as hell. How do I subtract the amount of decayed atoms from the nondecayed?

The underlying principle is that the probability of anyone atom decaying in a small time interval dt is constant, so the rate of decay or activity A(t) is proportional to the number of atoms available for decay N(t)

A(t) = -dN(t)/dt = λN(t)

The minus is because N(t) is decreasing with time.

The function N(t) that satisfies this differential relationship is the familiar decaying exponential. It could be found by separating variables and integrating, but the result is well known, so you don't need to repeat that part of the derivation.
 
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I think you do need all the information give, since you have to find lambda to find half life (or the mean-life of the decay).
 
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All you need is the relationship between activity, number of atoms (implying you need the mass of the sample) and half life.
Activity = N*lambda = N*ln2/Half-life, so half-life = N*ln2/A. N = Avogardo's*mass/gram atomic weight, so
Half-life = Avogadro's number*mass*ln2/Gram Atomic Weight. Mass and atomic weight are given, so you don't need to use an integral, and you do need the isotope.
 

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