How Do You Calculate Normal Force and Speed in Physics Problems?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the normal force and speed in physics problems involving a block on a frictionless ramp and an armadillo's jump. The original poster presents two distinct scenarios: one involving kinetic energy on a ramp and the other concerning the vertical motion of an armadillo.

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  • The original poster attempts to calculate the normal force on a block using kinetic energy and height, while also addressing the armadillo's initial and final speeds during its jump. Some participants question the calculations and assumptions regarding energy values and the interpretation of the problem statement.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problems, providing feedback on calculations and questioning the setup. There is a recognition of differing interpretations of the energy scale, and some participants are exploring alternative setups for the normal force calculation.

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There are indications of confusion regarding the energy scale provided in the problem statement, with some participants noting discrepancies in the values used for calculations. The original poster expresses concern about their understanding as they prepare for an upcoming exam.

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Homework Statement


1.A block is sent up a frictionless ramp along which an x-axis extends upward. The figure below gives the kinetic energy of the block as a function of position x; the scale of the figure's vertical axis is set by Ks = 38.0 J. If the block's initial speed is 4.70 m/s, what is the normal force on the block?

2. A startled armadillo leaps upward rising 0.553 m in the first 0.197 s.
(a) What is its initial speed as it leaves the ground?
Correct: Your answer is correct. m/s

(b) What is its speed at the height of 0.553 m?
Correct: Your answer is correct. m/s

(c) How much higher does it go?



Homework Equations


F=ma
v^2=v0^2+2ad



The Attempt at a Solution



For the first question

KE=.5mv^2
152 J = .5m(4.70 m/s)^2
m=13.8 kg

Height of the ramp
.5mv^2=mgh
152 J=13.8kg*9.8m/s^2*h
h=1.13 m
Solve for the angle of the ramp
sin-1(1.13m/2m) = 34 deg
N-mgcos34=0
N=13.8*9.8cos34=111 N. But this is wrong.

2nd question...
solved pt a and b, got 3.77 m/s for v0, 1.84 m/s vf

v0 is 0 m/s at the top of the height, so
0=3.77m/s ^2 +2*9.8m/s^2d
solve for d, get .725
difference is .17 m. But this is wrong.

Thank you so much! Final monday and I have a C-:/
 
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cjb19 said:

Homework Statement


1.A block is sent up a frictionless ramp along which an x-axis extends upward. The figure below gives the kinetic energy of the block as a function of position x; the scale of the figure's vertical axis is set by Ks = 38.0 J. If the block's initial speed is 4.70 m/s, what is the normal force on the block?

2. A startled armadillo leaps upward rising 0.553 m in the first 0.197 s.
(a) What is its initial speed as it leaves the ground?
Correct: Your answer is correct. m/s

(b) What is its speed at the height of 0.553 m?
Correct: Your answer is correct. m/s

(c) How much higher does it go?



Homework Equations


F=ma
v^2=v0^2+2ad



The Attempt at a Solution



For the first question

KE=.5mv^2
152 J = .5m(4.70 m/s)^2
m=13.8 kg

Height of the ramp
.5mv^2=mgh
152 J=13.8kg*9.8m/s^2*h
h=1.13 m
Solve for the angle of the ramp
sin-1(1.13m/2m) = 34 deg
N-mgcos34=0
N=13.8*9.8cos34=111 N. But this is wrong.

2nd question...
solved pt a and b, got 3.77 m/s for v0, 1.84 m/s vf

v0 is 0 m/s at the top of the height, so
0=3.77m/s ^2 +2*9.8m/s^2d
solve for d, get .725
difference is .17 m. But this is wrong.

Thank you so much! Final monday and I have a C-:/

Where did you get 152 Joules from? You said the energy was 38J [which only one quarter of 152]
 
cjb19 said:
Oops! Sorry, forgot to include this image
http://www.webassign.net/hrw/7-33.gif

It's a scale of 38 J so, at the top (0m) E=38J(4)=152 J

Where did you get the idea it is a scale 38J?

The problem states that Ks = 38J. That is not some sort of scale. They have not said 38J per division.

Also this problem was the subject of another post earlier?
 
Wow, apparently I can't read.

And yes, I found that post but I think my setup is different then theirs but still correct.

I know get a value of 27.9523 N for the normal force.
 

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