How Do You Calculate P(12) for a Polynomial Given Specific Conditions?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the value of a polynomial \( P(12) \) given that \( P(x) \) is a polynomial of degree 11 and satisfies \( P(x) = \frac{1}{x+1} \) for \( x = 0, 1, 2, \ldots, 11 \). Participants explore different approaches to derive \( P(12) \), including the use of interpolation methods and polynomial definitions.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests defining \( g(x) = P(x) - \frac{1}{x+1} \) and expresses uncertainty about the value of \( a \) in the equation \( g(x) = ax(x-1)(x-2)\cdots (x-11) \).
  • Another participant proposes using the Lagrange Interpolating Polynomial to express \( P(x) \) and provides a formula for the interpolation based on the given conditions.
  • A later reply agrees with the initial approach but recommends redefining \( g(x) \) as \( g(x) = (x+1)P(x) - 1 \) to facilitate finding the value of \( a \) by substituting \( x = -1 \).

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Participants generally agree on the need to define \( g(x) \) in a way that allows for the determination of \( a \), but there is no consensus on the best method to proceed with the calculation of \( P(12) \).

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Participants express uncertainty regarding the correct approach to defining \( g(x) \) and the implications of their definitions on finding \( a \). There are unresolved aspects concerning the application of the Lagrange Interpolating Polynomial and its parameters.

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Problem:
Let $P(x)$ be a polynomial of degree 11 such that

$$P(x)=\frac{1}{x+1}\,\,\,\text{for}\,\,\,x=0,1,2,\cdots 11$$
Then find the value of P(12).

Attempt:
I have done this kind of problem long before but I don't exactly remember the process.

I think it was something like this:

Define $g(x)=P(x)-\frac{1}{x+1}$, then
$$g(x)=P(x)-\frac{1}{x+1}=ax(x-1)(x-2)\cdots (x-11)$$
But I don't think the above is correct. I don't have the value of $a$.

Any help is appreciated. Thanks!
 
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Pranav said:
Problem:
Let $P(x)$ be a polynomial of degree 11 such that

$$P(x)=\frac{1}{x+1}\,\,\,\text{for}\,\,\,x=0,1,2,\cdots 11$$
Then find the value of P(12).

Attempt:
I have done this kind of problem long before but I don't exactly remember the process.

I think it was something like this:

Define $g(x)=P(x)-\frac{1}{x+1}$, then
$$g(x)=P(x)-\frac{1}{x+1}=ax(x-1)(x-2)\cdots (x-11)$$
But I don't think the above is correct. I don't have the value of $a$.

Any help is appreciated. Thanks!

I'm afraid that You have to use the Lagrange Interpolating Polynomial...

$\displaystyle P(x) = \sum_{j=1}^{n}\ p_{j}(x)\ (1)$

... where...

$\displaystyle p_{j} (x) = y_{j}\ \prod_{k=1,\ k \ne j}^{n} \frac{x - x_{k}}{x_{j} - x_{k}}\ (2)$In Your case is n=12, $x_{k}=k - 1$, $y_{k} = \frac{1}{k}$...

Kind regards$\chi$ $\sigma$
 
Pranav said:
Problem:
Let $P(x)$ be a polynomial of degree 11 such that

$$P(x)=\frac{1}{x+1}\,\,\,\text{for}\,\,\,x=0,1,2,\cdots 11$$
Then find the value of P(12).

Attempt:
I have done this kind of problem long before but I don't exactly remember the process.

I think it was something like this:

Define $g(x)=P(x)-\frac{1}{x+1}$, then
$$g(x)=P(x)-\frac{1}{x+1}=ax(x-1)(x-2)\cdots (x-11)$$
But I don't think the above is correct. I don't have the value of $a$.
You are thinking along the right lines, but you would do better to define $g(x) = (x+1)P(x) - 1$. You would still have $g(x) = ax(x-1)(x-2)\cdots (x-11)$, but this way you can find $a$ by putting $x=-1$.
 
Opalg said:
You are thinking along the right lines, but you would do better to define $g(x) = (x+1)P(x) - 1$. You would still have $g(x) = ax(x-1)(x-2)\cdots (x-11)$, but this way you can find $a$ by putting $x=-1$.

Thank you Opalg! :)
 

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