How Do You Calculate the Area of a Rectangle with Given Perimeter and Diagonal?

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The problem involves calculating the area of a rectangle given its perimeter and the length of its diagonal. The perimeter is specified as 100, leading to a relationship between the length and width of the rectangle, while the diagonal introduces a connection through the Pythagorean theorem.

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  • Participants discuss the relationships between the perimeter, diagonal, and area of the rectangle. There are attempts to derive the area using algebraic identities and the Pythagorean theorem. Questions arise regarding the reasoning behind squaring the perimeter and the connections to geometric properties.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, providing insights into the relationships between the variables involved. Some guidance has been offered regarding the algebraic manipulation needed to relate the area to the given perimeter and diagonal. Multiple interpretations of the relationships are being explored without reaching a consensus.

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Hi all, I am new to physicsforums, so i just want to get to know yall. I am a sophomore and takin alg II, i have an AMC test coming up on February 9. and my teacher gave me a review packet. there are only 25 questions but they are like the hardest questions I've ever seen. So if there's someone has already taken the test, and can help me out with those questions, i would rly appreciate it. i don't need the answer, i just want to know how to solve the problems.

Homework Statement


The perimeter of a rectangle is 100 and its diagonal has length x. What is the area of this rectangle.


Homework Equations


i got l + w = 50 (from the perimeter of the rectangle)
and x2= l2 + w2 (find the diagonal of the right triangle)

i found this on the internet: 2lw= (l+w)2 - (l2+w2)
and got 2500 - x2 , then they divide it by 2 to get the area of the rectangle.

so basically they put : 2(Area) = (perimeter)2 - [this is what i don't get]
and why they square the perimeter?

2 rectangle = 4 triangle = 1 kite ? i don't think there's any connection w/ the kite : A = (1/2)d1*d2

P/s: english is not my language, so if u guys don't understand something just say sth and ill try to explain. sry

btw this is the link of all the questions: http://www.unl.edu/amc/a-activities/a7-problems/practice1012p/html1012p/10pcontest/02c10p.html#10pc#3
 
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We are told that the perimeter is 100
This is 2(l+w)=100 since there are 2 lengths and 2 widths in the rectangle.

So we divide by 2 and now have l+w=50

We also have l^2+w^2=x^2 by pythagoras' theorem

and lw=A for the Area

Now, the result you saw 2lw=(l+w)^2-(l^2+w^2) can easily be proven by expanding (l+w)^2 and don't think about squaring the perimeter as a geometric thing (don't try picture what shape its creating) just square the number 50 since from before l+w=50 by squaring both sides (l+w)^2=2500

And the l^2+w^2 we already showed is equal to x^2.

So substitute everything into the equation:

2A=(50)^2-(x^2)

A=1250-\frac{x^2}{2}

Really, all you needed to do in this problem was find out all the relationships you can to involve x (such as pythagoras' theorem, the area of a rectangle, and the perimeter) and then the tricky bit was to notice that the area lw can be related to the perimeter l+w in such a way that if we square the perimeter, expanding it gives us the other pythagorean relationship l^2+w^2 and the area lw. Then if you found the correct formula, all you need to do is substitute all your relationships into it.
 
(l+ w)^2= l^2+ 2lw+ w^2. l+ w= 50 and l^2+ w^2= x^2 so (50)^2= x^2+ 2A That gives the same formula Mentallic gave.
 
thank you guys, it really does help me out.
 

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