How do you derive the correct projectile motion formula?

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around deriving the correct formula for projectile motion in a scenario where a jaguar leaps at a specific speed and angle to intercept another animal. The problem involves understanding the relationship between velocity, distance, and time in the context of two-dimensional motion on an incline.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the necessity of deriving the equation for motion and question the relationship between velocity and distance without explicit time information. There is an exploration of integrating equations and the implications of height on velocity.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different methods to approach the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the usefulness of general formulas in projectile motion, and there is recognition of the need to relate equations in both dimensions.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the absence of time information in the problem statement and question how this affects the choice of equations used for solving the problem.

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Homework Statement


A jaguar(A) leaps from the origin at a speed of v0 = 6 m/s and an angle β = 35° relative to the incline to try and intercept the panther(B) at point C. Determine the distance R that the jaguar jumps from the origin to point C. given the the angle of the incline is θ = 25°.

Homework Equations



a = dv/dt

The Attempt at a Solution



I know how to solve this problem by just looking up the constant acceleration formula and translating the velocity and R into cosines and sines. My question is, How do we know that we have to derive the equation s = s_0 +v_0(t) +.5a(t^2)? When I first tried it, and since it was trying to relate velocity and distance I thought I would use the derivation a = (dv/dx)(dx/dt) = v(dv/dx). Once I integrated it out I got a(x - x_0) = (v^2)/2 - (v_0^2)/2... why doesn't this work for solving the problem? How do you know from the beginning that you're going to have to use the general form I showed above when we are not given any info about time in the problem statement? Let me know if I need to clarify my question at all.
 
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How do we know that we have to derive the equation s = s_0 +v_0(t) +.5a(t^2)?
You do not have to, but it is useful.

Once I integrated it out I got a(x - x_0) = (v^2)/2 - (v_0^2)/2... why doesn't this work for solving the problem?
How does the height-dependence of the velocity help?

How do you know from the beginning that you're going to have to use the general form I showed above when we are not given any info about time in the problem statement?
Experience. In doubt, use the general formula.
 
Thanks for the reply! Do we always have to use the general form for projectile motion since it is 2-D. I now kind of think we do, because we are going to need a way to relate the equations in both directions, so we are going to have to use a form with time because that's the variable that is the same in both directions, is that correct? Does that make sense?
 
There are always multiple methods to solve the problem, but that one is the easiest.
 

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