How do you prove this statement in geometry?

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A polygon with nonnegative area requires a minimum of 3 vertices, while a polyhedron with nonnegative volume necessitates at least 4 vertices. In higher dimensions, a hyperspace with nonnegative measure cannot be formed with fewer than n points. The discussion emphasizes the importance of cardinality in defining geometric shapes and their properties, particularly in relation to nonnegative measures and volumes. The proof of these statements can vary significantly depending on whether linear algebra or geometric methods are employed.

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A polygon with nonnegative area cannot be formed with fewer than 3 points.
A polyhedra with nonnegative volume cannot be formed with fewer than 4 points.
A hyperspace with nonnegative measure cannot be formed with fewer than n points.

What I mean by "3 points" is that the cardinality of the set of vertices is 3.
 
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phoenixthoth said:
A polygon with nonnegative area cannot be formed with fewer than 3 points.

Actually a single point is a polygon of zero area which is nonnegative.

When you say "prove this statement in geometry" are you saying "prove this statement, which has to do with geometry" (because a proof using linear algebra is pretty easy) or are you asking "prove this statement using geometry" which I think would be significantly harder
 
phoenixthoth said:
A polygon with nonnegative area cannot be formed with fewer than 3 points.
A polyhedra with nonnegative volume cannot be formed with fewer than 4 points.
A hyperspace with nonnegative measure cannot be formed with fewer than n points.

What I mean by "3 points" is that the cardinality of the set of vertices is 3.

Take any n-1 points and build a small prism based on the polygon they create in a n-1-dimensional hyperplane (the polygon has to be completely inside the prism). Prism's volume is not more that S*h, where S is the "area"(n-1-dimensional) of the polygon and h is the length of the edge not coplanar with the hyperplane. Now it's clear that S*h tends to 0 as h tends to 0. By definition it means that the set of points of the polygon has "zero Lebesgue measure".
I hope you mentioned the word "cardinality" for no reason, because in an infinite-dimensional space volume as we're used to it (Lebesgue measure) doesn't exist.
 
Sorry, I meant positive measure.
 

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