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Can anyone explain to me what approach I need to take to solve this type of problem?
Express x/3x+1 - 2/8x-1
Express x/3x+1 - 2/8x-1
The discussion revolves around simplifying complex fractions, specifically the expression x/(3x + 1) - 2/(8x - 1). Participants are exploring various approaches to manipulate and simplify the given expression.
The conversation includes various interpretations of the problem, with some participants providing guidance on the correct use of parentheses and the importance of checking intermediate steps. There is no explicit consensus on the correct simplification yet.
Some participants note the importance of using parentheses to clarify expressions and highlight potential errors in previous calculations. There is also mention of homework rules that may restrict the types of assistance provided.
No. Show us what you got before you factored the numerator.Gringo123 said:Thanks Tim
The answer that I have come up with is:
(8x - 1) (x + 1) / 3x + 1) (8x - 1)
Is that correct?
If what you got previously was correct, then yes, this would be valid. However, instead of writing x + 1 / 3x - 1, you need parentheses around the numerator and denominator, like this (x + 1) / (3x - 1). Note that this isn't the right answer.Gringo123 said:If it is, can I not cancel out the (8x - 1) from the top and bottom, leaving me with just:
x + 1 / 3x - 1
?
Surely not, and you have made at least two errors coming up with this. Cancelling means removing factors that are the same in numerator and denominator.Gringo123 said:and then surely I can cancel x + 1 / 3x - 1 further to just x / 3x?
Use parentheses. The above should be written as x/(3x + 1) - 2/(8x - 1). If a numerator or denominator has more than one term, you need to surround it with parentheses.Gringo123 said:This is how I arrived at x + 1 / 3x + 1:
* x/3x + 1 - 2/ 8x-1
Use = to indicate that expressions are equal. Except for the first line, everywhere you have used * you should have =.Gringo123 said:* x(8x - 1) - 2(3x + 1) / (3x + 1) (8x - 1)
You skipped a step in the above, and one of your terms in the numerator is wrong.Gringo123 said:* 8x squared - x - 6x - 1 / (3x + 1) (8x - 1)
Aside from the fact that 8x2 - 7x - 1 is incorrect, the factorization is not (8x - 1)(x + 1). As problems get more involved, check your work in intermediate steps. Does (8x - 1)(x + 1) multiply to 8x2 - 7x - 1?Gringo123 said:* 8x squared - 7x - 1 / (3x + 1) (8x - 1)
* (8x - 1) (x + 1) / (3x + 1) (8x - 1)
Gringo123 said:* (x + 1) / (3x + 1)
The approach is the same as for adding two fractions, such as 3/8 + 1/6.Gringo123 said:Can anyone explain to me what approach I need to take to solve this type of problem?
Express x/3x+1 - 2/8x-1