How Do You Solve a Momentum Problem Involving Friction and Collision?

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The problem involves a collision between two cars, one of which fails to stop due to friction, leading to a discussion about momentum, deceleration, and the effects of friction on motion. The context is rooted in mechanics, particularly focusing on concepts of momentum and forces acting during a collision.

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  • Participants discuss the application of Newton's second law (F=ma) to determine deceleration due to friction. There are questions about the validity of using certain formulas and the relationship between friction and acceleration. Some participants explore the conservation of momentum in the context of the collision.

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The discussion is active, with participants offering insights into the application of formulas and questioning the assumptions made in the problem. There is no explicit consensus yet, but various approaches are being explored, particularly regarding the effects of friction and momentum conservation.

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Participants note the absence of certain information, such as initial velocities and time, which complicates the application of formulas. The discussion also reflects on the implications of constant friction in the context of the problem.

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Here's the problem:
A small car (mass = 500 kg) fails to stop at the entrance to a major road until it has
reached the middle of the carriageway. It is then struck by a sports car (mass =
1000 kg) and the two cars lock together. Police investigators show that the skid
marks stretch for 40 m. Assuming that the frictional force on these two vehicles
was constant at 7.5 x 108 Newtons, find

(a) the deceleration of the two cars
(b) the speed at which the two cars moved off after the impact
(c) the speed of the sports car just before the impact…in miles per hour (100 mi/h = 45
m/s approx.)

I couldn't apply any formula of momentum here.there's even no given time and velocity.i tried to apply F=ma to get the deceleration but i think constant friction is the key here.a also have no idea how to get the other two questions.i'm kinda confused here.help please..i'd appreciate a good explanation how to solve this problem.thanks a lot.
 
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As you said, F=ma and the constant friction force are the key to part A. So, you know:

The friction force and [tex]\Sigma F=ma[/tex].

Can you use this to find anything of interest?
 
are you sure the formula is applicable?
i think the answer would be -500000 m/s2
isn't that too unreal?
how bout the constant friction?is it related to the acceleration?
thanks.
 
Momentum is conserved

[tex]p_{1v1}[/tex] = momentum of vehicle 1 prior to collision
[tex]p_{1v2}[/tex] = momentum of vehicle 2 prior to collision
[tex]p_{2v1}[/tex] = momentum of vehicle 1 after to collision
[tex]p_{2v2}[/tex] = momentum of vehicle 2 after to collision

[tex]p_{1v1}+p_{1v2}=p_{2v1}+p_{2v2}[/tex]
 
You also know how to convert between distance and acceleration:

[tex]a(x-x_0)=\frac{1}{2}(v^2-v_0^2)[/tex]

Using this you can find the initial velocity [tex]v_0[/tex]

You know the friction force is μN=μmg and since m cancels out, the deceleration is μg
 
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