How Do You Solve Genetics Probability Problems?

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The discussion revolves around solving genetics probability problems related to the gender distribution of children in families. Participants explore various probability questions involving families with different numbers of children and the likelihood of specific gender combinations and orders.

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  • Homework-related
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks assistance with three specific probability questions regarding the gender of children in families.
  • Another participant explains that the probability of having a boy or a girl is equal, likening it to a coin toss, and suggests using combinations to determine outcomes for the first question.
  • A participant indicates they have solved the first two problems and requests hints for the third problem.
  • Another participant suggests that the third problem involves considering the order of children in addition to the gender combinations.
  • One participant asks how to find all possible combinations without listing them all, indicating a desire for a more efficient method.
  • A later reply recommends checking an external resource on permutations and combinations for understanding probability and order, while expressing personal difficulty with the topic.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the basic principles of probability as they relate to the problems, but there is no consensus on the methods for solving the third problem or the best approach to finding combinations efficiently.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions about the independence of each child's gender and the equal probability of male and female births are present but not explicitly stated. The discussion does not resolve the mathematical steps for the third problem.

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Hi,

I'm just stuck on a few questions. Can anyone offer me some assistance?

a) In families with four children, what proportion of the families will have at least one boy?

b) In families with two girls and one boy, what fraction of the families will have the boy as the second child?

c) In family with four children, what fraction of the families will have the gender order male-female-female-male?

I know these questions deal with probability and numbers but I don't know where to begin.

Thanks in advance
 
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The only real genetics aspect to this question is to understand this: every time a child is born, it's a fifty-fifty chance whether or not you'll get a boy or a girl, depending on which sex chromosome they get from their father. That means the probability of having a boy is equal to the probability of getting a girl, like a coin toss. So you can treat these problems as though they were coin tosses, using standard probability; the number of desired outcomes over the number of total possible outcomes. So for example with the first question, in a family with four kids, just figure out how many different combinations of boys and girls you can have; BBBB, BBBG, etc. Out of all the possible choices, how many have at least one boy? The rest should be pretty easy from there.
 
Ok, I managed to to parts a and b. Can anyone give me a hint on how to do problem c?

thankx
 
it's rather like a and b combined. you have four children, but now all your possible outcomes include not only BBBB, BBBG, etc, but also the different orders each of those can come in.
 
for part C, how do I find all the possible combinations without writing them all out?
 
writing them out in this case isn't too painful, because there's not a huge amount; but I would check out this page:

http://www.chem.qmul.ac.uk/software/download/qmc/ch5.pdf

for an explanation of permutations and combinations, which deal with probability and order. (I was never very good at that stuff, which is why I'm sending you to an outside source. =p)
 
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