How Do You Solve Integration Issues with Differential Equations?

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The discussion revolves around solving integration issues related to a differential equation involving pressure and velocity. Participants are exploring methods to separate variables and integrate the equation, focusing on the implications of taking the n-th root in the context of the problem.

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  • Homework-related
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents a differential equation and expresses difficulty in integrating due to separation issues.
  • Another participant suggests taking the n-th root of both sides to facilitate separation, noting that this could lead to multiple solutions depending on the parity of n.
  • A subsequent reply questions the form of the expression after taking the n-th root, prompting clarification on the correct expression.
  • Participants discuss the implications of the n-th root, particularly regarding the selection of signs based on the context of the problem.
  • Clarification is provided that the correct expression after taking the n-th root is indeed separable, allowing for further manipulation of the equation.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the method of taking the n-th root to separate the variables, but there is some uncertainty regarding the implications of this step, particularly concerning the signs and the context of the problem.

Contextual Notes

The discussion does not resolve the potential complications arising from the n-th root, such as the choice of signs or the assumptions about the variables involved.

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Hello All,

I am trying to solve the following problem and I am having some trouble in doing so...would it be possible for someone to help me?

Here it is:

(-dP/dZ)*(r/2)=k((dv/dr)^n)

(-dP/dZ) is constant and I am trying to integrate dv/dr but I am having trouble separating the term... please HELP!
 
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So, your problem is

[tex]\frac{\alpha r}{2} = k \left(\frac{dv}{dr} \right)^n[/tex]

where [itex]\alpha = -\frac{dP}{dz}[/itex]. Take the n^th root of both sides to get

[tex]\frac{dv}{dr} = \left(\frac{\alpha r}{2 k}\right)^n[/tex]

which is easily seen to be separable. Just be careful, though - taking the n^th root could result in numerous solutions, e.g. n = even results in a +/-, so you may need to choose just one of the signs based on the context of the problem, and I'm assuming everything should be real, so that's the only issue with taking the root. (n odd is okay, since there's only one real root).
 
If you take the nth root of both sides do you not end up with (ar/2k)^1/n?
 
I am sorry let me post the complete equation: do you not get dv/dr=(ar/2k)^1/n
 
Ah, sorry. 'Twas a typo or some sort of brain misfire when typing. Yes, you get that, so you can separate it as

[tex]\frac{dr}{r^{1/n}} = \left(\frac{\alpha}{2k} \right)^{1/n}dv[/tex]
 

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