How Does a Weight Affect Balance in Rotational Motion?

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The discussion revolves around a problem involving a uniform bar balanced on a frictionless pivot, with weights affecting its equilibrium in the context of rotational motion. Participants are trying to determine the upward reaction force at the pivot and the load hanging on one side of the bar.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the application of the law of moments and the concept of equilibrium, questioning the position of the pivot and the values associated with the weights. Some express confusion about the calculations and the provided options for the answers.

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There is ongoing exploration of the problem, with participants seeking clarification on the setup and the necessary information to solve it. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of moments, but there is no consensus on the solution due to missing data and differing interpretations of the problem.

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Participants note that the diagram and specific position of the pivot are crucial for solving the problem, and there is acknowledgment of insufficient information in the original question. Some participants express frustration with the explanations in their physics textbooks.

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fig. MC2 shows a uniform 100-cm long bar of weight F w, balanced in equilibrium on a frictionless pivot. [picture a long bar and it being balanced on the point, but the point is towards the beginning of the bar with a weight to the left of it, to keep it at equilibrium]
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Q: what is the value of the upward reaction force on the bar at the pivot?
a. F w
b. 2F w
c. 3F w
d. 4F w

F w(weight)

Q2: what is the value of the load hanging at the left of pivot?
a. F w
b. 2F w
c. 3F w
d. 4F w

no clue how they got the numbers in front of the Fw
 
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Weight of the bar always acts at the center of the rod. Consider the pivot at a distance x from the center of the rod. The other end of the rod will be at 50 - x from the pivot. Now apply the law moments about the pivot and find the wight at the left end of the rod and reaction on the pivot.
 
rl.bhat said:
Weight of the bar always acts at the center of the rod. Consider the pivot at a distance x from the center of the rod. The other end of the rod will be at 50 - x from the pivot. Now apply the law moments about the pivot and find the wight at the left end of the rod and reaction on the pivot.

i still don't get it..please help
 
The body remains in equilibrium when clockwise moment= anticlockwise moment. Hence F*X = F1*(50-X). To solve the problem you must know the position of the pivot. Is it indicated in the figure?
 
rl.bhat said:
The body remains in equilibrium when clockwise moment= anticlockwise moment. Hence F*X = F1*(50-X). To solve the problem you must know the position of the pivot. Is it indicated in the figure?

it just shows a long bar and almost all the way to the left of it there's a weight and next to the weight is whatever its called holding up the long bar..if u got an email address i can send u a pic
 
Got your e-mail. I asked you to send the exact diagram. In the question some data is missing. The attachment was so large that I closed it before it completed. I saw your other quote. In that also sufficient data is not provided. In both the problems you have not shown your work.
a picture shows the 2 hanging objects on one side is heavier than the clay(which is high in the air).. Where is the picture? Unless we know the exact position of the pivot we can,t solve the proble. In both the problems you have to use simple laws of moments which you can get in any PHYSICS BOOK.
 
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i know buyt my physics book doesn't explain it very well..ill try sending it to u again..i don't ask for help if I am able to solve it myself, but i cant
 

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