Solving the Puzzle: How Does the Magnetic Field Affect Balance?

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving a rectangular coil of wire suspended from a balance and its interaction with a magnetic field. Participants are exploring how the magnetic field affects the balance when a current is introduced in the coil.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are questioning the forces acting on the coil, particularly why there is a net downward force despite the presence of an upward force from the magnetic field. There is also discussion about the distribution of the magnetic field and its implications for the problem.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants offering insights and questioning assumptions about the magnetic field's influence. Some guidance has been provided regarding the potential misunderstanding of the magnetic field's distribution, but no consensus has been reached on the specifics of the problem.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the original question may be poorly worded, leading to confusion about the forces involved and the setup of the problem.

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Well I have the answer already, just don't understand it.

A rectangular coil of wire is hung from one arm of a balance, as my beautiful diagram will show. With the magnetic turned off, a Mass M is added to the pan on the other arm to balance the weight of the coil. When a constant magnetic field is turn on and there is a currentr of 8.50 A in the coil, how much additional mass m must be added to regain the balance? The magnetic field is also going into the page. Forgot to draw the X's.
Image: http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/6318/balanaceyd8.th.jpg

Because of the magnetic field, the bottom length of the coil exerts a downward force but why is there a net force downwards, causing the torque? Shouldn't the upwards force from the magnetic field at the top of the rectangular coil cancel it out? Thanks in advance.
 
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I agree with you, the upward and downward forces would surely cancel out. Not to say that you diagram isn't excellent, but all I can think is that perhaps there is some small extra detail that we're missing here. Is the magnetic field distributed evenly throughout the entire diagram, for example, or is it localised?
 
Ah yes. It was only a Mfield around the bottom part, since the question didnt mention that i assumed it was for the whole diagram and they just got lazy. But that makes much more sense, my bad.
 
Nah, there was nothing wrong with your understanding, you were just faced with a poorly written question.
 

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