How Does Coating a Cantilever Beam with Gold Affect Its Natural Frequency?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on calculating the natural frequency of a cantilever beam made of SiO2 and the effects of coating it with a gold layer. Participants explore theoretical approaches, mathematical modeling, and comparisons with existing literature. The context includes both theoretical calculations and practical implications of the coating on frequency.

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  • Technical explanation
  • Mathematical reasoning
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents the formula for resonant frequency and seeks clarification on their calculations, noting discrepancies between their results and expected values.
  • Another participant suggests that the gold coating may behave like two springs in parallel, indicating a potential model for understanding its impact on frequency.
  • A participant shares their calculated values for mass, moment of inertia, stiffness, and frequency, but highlights a significant difference from the expected frequency.
  • Concerns are raised about the accuracy of arithmetic and the need for careful substitution in formulas to avoid errors in calculations.
  • One participant references a paper with results for a polysilicon cantilever with gold coating, expressing confusion over differing frequency results and seeking assistance with their calculations.
  • Another participant emphasizes the importance of reviewing calculations step-by-step and comparing with other sources to identify discrepancies.
  • A suggestion is made to derive the natural frequency formula from first principles, particularly after applying the gold coating, to understand changes in bending moments.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the calculations and modeling approaches, with no consensus on the correct method or results. Discrepancies in expected frequencies and calculations remain unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Participants note potential limitations in their calculations, including assumptions about material properties and the effects of the gold coating, which may not be fully accounted for in their models.

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A Cantilever beam of SiO2 of length 100μm, width 20μm and thickness of 5μm. How to calculate the resonant frequency? I know f=1/2∏√(k/m) where k=3EI/L^3 and mass = l*w*h *ρ (density) and I = w*t^3/12, but i don't get the desired answer. pl correct me.

What changes are to be considered for the natural frequency if the cantilever is coated by a gold layer of 0.5μm uniform thickness forming a composite beam.

thanks in advance.
 
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visuk said:
A Cantilever beam of SiO2 of length 100μm, width 20μm and thickness of 5μm. How to calculate the resonant frequency? I know f=1/2∏√(k/m) where k=3EI/L^3 and mass = l*w*h *ρ (density) and I = w*t^3/12, but i don't get the desired answer. pl correct me.
Please show how you did the calculation.
What was the desired answer?

What changes are to be considered for the natural frequency if the cantilever is coated by a gold layer of 0.5μm uniform thickness forming a composite beam.
Depends on how you model the coating - would it act a bit like putting two springs in parallel?
Perhaps you course notes include some example of the kind of model you are expected to use?
 
By substituting the values, I got mass = 2.2*10^-8 gm, I=2.08*10^-22 m^4, K=4.56*10^4g/s^2, f= 229KHz . But the expected freq is 82KHz. Pl Check. Thank you for the response.

Yes! The gold coating will act like two springs in parallel.
 
Since you basically just plugged numbers into a formula, and got the wrong answer, then you either got bad arithmetic, or the wrong equation.

Off your notes post #1:$$\omega = \sqrt{\frac{k}{m}}$$... is correct - so you want to look closely at the substitutions.
Work through the problem carefully, documenting each step, try to be consistent with your notation.
 
sorry for the trouble, i am working for the theoretical frequency calculation of a SiO2 cantilever with gold coating. I came across a similar paper which has the result given for the resonant frequency of a polysilicon cantilever with gold coating.

RESULT:
The frequency of polysilicon cantilever is 9.35KHz,
and the frequency with gold coating is 19.7KHz

Kindly check the attachment for my calculations for the same dimensions given in that paper. My result is 8.69KHz instead of 9.35KHz. Kindly help.
 

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I'm not in the habit of checking people's arithmetic - that often results in me doing their work for them ;)
If you get a different figure from someone else, i.e. in the paper, then go through their calculation carefully and see where they do something different to you. If you don't understand part of the calculation, I can help you with that.

It can also hep to check your course notes against another source.
http://iitg.vlab.co.in/?sub=62&brch=175&sim=1080&cnt=1
 

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