How Does Fubini's Theorem Relate to the Product of Two Integrals?

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The discussion revolves around the relationship between Fubini's Theorem and the product of two integrals, specifically addressing the proof of the equality between the product of two integrals and a double integral of the product of two functions. The scope includes theoretical exploration and mathematical reasoning.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the proof of the statement that the product of two integrals equals a double integral of the product of two functions.
  • Another participant explains that the equality can be derived by manipulating the integrals, suggesting that constants can be moved in and out of integrals, and provides a step-by-step reasoning for this manipulation.
  • A different participant argues that renaming the dummy variable is only valid in definite integration, implying a limitation in the previous explanation.
  • Another participant notes that Fubini's theorem states that if the double integral of the absolute value of a function converges, the value will be the same regardless of the order of integration.

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Participants express differing views on the validity of manipulating integrals by renaming dummy variables, indicating a lack of consensus on this aspect of the discussion. The relationship between Fubini's Theorem and the product of integrals remains a point of contention.

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There are unresolved assumptions regarding the conditions under which the manipulations of the integrals are valid, particularly in relation to definite versus indefinite integrals. The discussion does not clarify the specific conditions required for the application of Fubini's theorem.

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Product of two integrals...

In proving a theorem, my DE textbook uses an unfamiliar approach by stating that
the product of two integrals = double integral sign - the product of two functions - dx dy

i hope my statement is descriptive enough. My question is, what's the proof to this?
 
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You mean, why is it true that
\left( \int f(x) dx \right) \left( \int g(x) dx \right) = \iint f(x) g(y) dx dy?
Because that's simply by the property that we can put any "constant" (that is, anything which does not depend on the integration variable) outside or inside an integral as we like. We can obviously rewrite
\left( \int f(x) dx \right) \left( \int g(x) dx \right) = \left( \int f(x) dx \right) \left( \int g(y) dy \right)
by renaming a dummy variable in the second integral. Now you see that the first part does not depend on y at all (just on x, but that's a different variable!), so we can take the entire first integral inside the second integration,
\left( \int f(x) dx \right) \left( \int g(x) dx \right) = \int \left( \int f(x) dx \right) g(y) dy
and since g(y) doesn't depend on x we can take that inside the x-integration (and then of course drop the brackets, as they don't clarify anything anymore).

Hope that answers the question.
 
Rewriting the dummy variable only yields the same result in Definite integration. I'm sure CompuChip meant this, writing bounds on all those integral signs wouldn't have been fun.
 
It is a property of Fubini's theorem that assuming the double integral over the absolute value of f converges, then it will yield the same value as the "nested" integral computations, irrespective of nesting order.
 

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