How Does Gibbs Phenomenon Affect Fourier Series Convergence?

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The discussion revolves around the effects of Gibbs Phenomenon on the convergence of Fourier series, as part of a larger homework question. Participants are exploring the implications of small-angle approximations and the behavior of integrals involving sine functions.

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  • Participants are attempting to clarify which small-angle formula to apply, considering options like Taylor series or sine approximations. There is also a focus on manipulating integrals and understanding the implications of large values of N in the context of the problem.

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Some participants have made progress on initial parts of the problem and are seeking further assistance with the more complex, wordy question at the end. Guidance has been provided regarding integral manipulation and the use of small-angle approximations, which some find helpful.

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Participants are referencing specific conditions related to Fourier series convergence and the Dirichlet conditions, indicating that these constraints are part of the discussion. There is also mention of external resources that may provide additional context or suggestions.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Small-angle_approximation

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This is part of a larger question, I have underlined in Red the areas I am struggling with and have cut out bits I have done.

Any ideas?

I have done some research and found out about 'Gibbs Phenonemon', http://www.sosmath.com/fourier/fourier3/gibbs.html

can't really get it all together to answer the question.

any help is appreciated, thanks! :)
 
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I am not sure which small angle formula to use, Taylor series or sine, or how to get the RHS of that equation...
 
Thanks for all the replies...

I have managed to do the first problem. Now I just need help with the wordy question at the end.

Any help will be massively appreciated
 
You have

f_N(\frac{\pi}{2N}) = \frac 2 \pi\int_0^{\frac \pi {2N}}\frac{\sin(2Nt)}{\sin(t)}\, dt

Letting u = 2Nt, du = 2Ndt gives

\frac 2 \pi\int_0^\pi \frac {\sin u}{\sin(\frac 1 {2N}u)}\frac 1 {2N}\, du

Now if N is large, u/(2N) is small and you can use the fact that for small angles, sin(θ) ≈ θ
in the denominator. That will get you your equation.
 
likearollings said:
Thanks for all the replies...

All what replies? I don't see any except for the one I just posted.
 
LCKurtz said:
All what replies? I don't see any except for the one I just posted.

Hey sorry, I posted that right before you replied, was getting really frustrated (sure you know how it is)! but thanks, I am just reading what you have written and it is a great help, thank you so much
 
LCKurtz said:
You have

f_N(\frac{\pi}{2N}) = \frac 2 \pi\int_0^{\frac \pi {2N}}\frac{\sin(2Nt)}{\sin(t)}\, dt

Letting u = 2Nt, du = 2Ndt gives

\frac 2 \pi\int_0^\pi \frac {\sin u}{\sin(\frac 1 {2N}u)}\frac 1 {2N}\, du

Now if N is large, u/(2N) is small and you can use the fact that for small angles, sin(θ) ≈ θ
in the denominator. That will get you your equation.
I thought that it might involve some substitution like that but I didn't think it would cancel out and work that well. Thanks! great help.

The limits of the integral all work out nicely too, thanks!

Any ideas for the last part of the question?

If you have a look at page 5 of this document it has some suggestions.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/20565822/Fourier-Series

These are the conditions:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dirichlet_conditions
 
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