How does increasing potential difference affect the magnetic force on electrons?

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The discussion revolves around the effects of increasing current and potential difference on the magnetic force between parallel conductors and the behavior of electrons in a magnetic field. The subject area includes electromagnetism, specifically the interaction of electric currents and magnetic fields.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the relationship between current and magnetic force, questioning the application of the formula F=ILB and the role of distance between conductors. There is also inquiry into how potential difference affects the magnetic force on electrons and the meaning of terms like "filament."

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, with some clarifying the variables involved in the equations and others acknowledging misconceptions in their initial reasoning. There is a recognition that the magnetic force should quadruple with doubled current, prompting further exploration of the underlying principles.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention the need for additional formulas that account for the distance between conductors and express uncertainty about the implications of potential difference on magnetic forces.

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1.Two long, straight, parallel conductors carry equal currents and are spaced 1.0 meter apart. If the current in each conductor is doubled, the magnitude o the magnetic force acting between the conductors will be 1)Doubled 4) quadrupled.
I chose 2 because I used the formula is F=ILB, so if I is doubled, then 2F=2ILB, F doubled as well, but the answer was 4), I didn’t use d=1 in that formula, so is there any other formula which includes d between two conductors?

2. Assume the magnetic field produced by the magnet and the electric field produced by plates X and Y remain constant. If the potential difference between the filament and the plate is increased, the force of the magnetic field on the electrons will
1) increase 2) decrease or 3) remain the same
I don’t understand why potential difference V matters the force? And what does it mean by filament?
 
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Hi MIA6,

MIA6 said:
1.Two long, straight, parallel conductors carry equal currents and are spaced 1.0 meter apart. If the current in each conductor is doubled, the magnitude o the magnetic force acting between the conductors will be 1)Doubled 4) quadrupled.
I chose 2 because I used the formula is F=ILB, so if I is doubled, then 2F=2ILB, F doubled as well, but the answer was 4), I didn’t use d=1 in that formula, so is there any other formula which includes d between two conductors?


Call them wire 1 and wire 2. You are looking at the force on wire 1, and the I in that equation is the current of wire 1. What does B in that formula represent? and is there another formula for it?

(There are other ways to get this answer, but your approach will work fine.)
 
alphysicist said:
Hi MIA6,




Call them wire 1 and wire 2. You are looking at the force on wire 1, and the I in that equation is the current of wire 1. What does B in that formula represent? and is there another formula for it?

(There are other ways to get this answer, but your approach will work fine.)

But my approach was wrong in this case. It's supposed to quadruple, but mine doubled.
 
MIA6 said:
But my approach was wrong in this case. It's supposed to quadruple, but mine doubled.

No, your approach will work, you just did not figure in all the changes. Your equation is:

<br /> F=ILB<br />

so you saw that I will double and L will stay the same. But what happens to B? It does not stay the same, and so my question was what is B? What is creating it in this case, and what other equation describes it?
 

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