How Does Mathematical Theory Explain Multiple Wave Reflections?

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This discussion focuses on the mathematical theory behind multiple wave reflections, specifically using the wave function ##\psi_i = Ae^{i(\omega t - k_1x)}##. The participants analyze the reflections and transmissions at boundaries, leading to the formulation of the reflection coefficient ##R## as a series involving transmission coefficients ##T_{12}##, ##T_{21}##, and reflection coefficients ##R_{12}##, ##R_{23}##. Key relationships such as ##T_{12}T_{21} = 1 - R_{12}^2## are established to simplify the reflection coefficient calculations.

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Homework Statement
Impedance ##Z_1, Z_3## are separated by ##Z_2## with a thickness ##L##.
##\psi_r = R\psi_i##
Show that the global reflection is ##R = \frac{R_{12} + R_{23}e^{-i2\omega L/v_2} }{ 1 + R_{12}R_{23}e^{-i2\omega L/v_2}}##
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##R_{12}## means the wave is reflected at the boundary between 1 and 2, moving from 1 to 2.
I know for a wave moving from left to right, ##\psi_i = Ae^{i(\omega t - k_1x)}##

The first reflection where ##Z_1## is ## R_{12}Ae^{i(\omega t - k_1x)}##

The second reflection. The wave moves from 2 to the limit between 2 and 3 then reflect...
Thus, ##T_{12}R_{23}T_{21} Ae^{i(\omega t - k_1 x - 2k_2 L)}##. Where ##L = \frac{\lambda_2}{4}## and ##\lambda_2 = \frac{2\pi}{k_2}## so ##2k_2 L = \pi##

The third time the wave comes to ##Z_1##. ##T_{12}R_{23}R_{21}R_{23}T_{21}e^{i(\omega t - k_1 x -i4k_2L)}##

We have ##R = R_{12} + T_{12}R_{23}T_{21}e^{-i2k_2 L} + T_{12}R_{23}R_{21}R_{23}T_{21}e^{-i4k_2 L} + ...##

##R = R_{12} + T_{12}R_{23}T_{21}e^{-i2k_2 L}(1 + R_{23}R_{21}e^{-i2k_2 L})##

##R = R_{12} + T_{12}R_{23}T_{21}e^{-i2k_2 L} \sum_{n=0}^{\infty} (R_{23}R_{21}e^{-i2k_2 L})^n##

##R = R_{12} + T_{12}R_{23}T_{21}e^{-i2k_2 L} \sum_{n=0}^{\infty} (-R_{23}R_{12}e^{-i2k_2 L})^n##

Using the geometric series

##R = \frac{R_{12} + T_{12}R_{23}T_{21}e^{-i2k_2 L}}{1 + R_{23}R_{12}e^{-i2k_2 L}}##

The dominator is right, but not the numerator. I really don't see where I made a mistake.
 
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Redwaves said:
We have ##R = R_{12} + T_{12}R_{23}T_{21}e^{-i2k_2 L} + T_{12}R_{23}R_{21}R_{23}T_{21}e^{-i4k_2 L} + ...##

##R = R_{12} + T_{12}R_{23}T_{21}e^{-i2k_2 L}(1 + R_{23}T_{21}e^{-i2k_2 L})##
There is a mistake in going from the first line to the second line where you factored out ##T_{12}R_{23}T_{21}e^{-i2k_2 L}##. Check the last term in the parentheses in the second line.
 
TSny said:
There is a mistake in going from the first line to the second line where you factored out ##T_{12}R_{23}T_{21}e^{-i2k_2 L}##. Check the last term in the parentheses in the second line.
It's a typo, I have ##R_{21}R_{23}## on my sheet. For some reason, I don't have any more preview while I type. It's the second term that shouldn't have the T's
 
Redwaves said:
##R = R_{12} + T_{12}R_{23}T_{21}e^{-i2k_2 L} \sum_{n=0}^{\infty} (-R_{23}R_{12}e^{-i2k_2 L})^n##
This looks good.

Redwaves said:
Using the geometric series

##R = \frac{R_{12} + T_{12}R_{23}T_{21}e^{-i2k_2 L}}{1 + R_{23}R_{12}e^{-i2k_2 L}}##

The dominator is right, but not the numerator. I really don't see where I made a mistake.
Shouldn't this be $$R = R_{12} + \frac{T_{12}R_{23}T_{21}e^{-i2k_2 L}}{1 + R_{23}R_{12}e^{-i2k_2 L}}$$
You should be able to reduce this to the result stated in the problem. You will need to know the relation between ##T_{12}## and ##T_{21}## and the relation between ##T_{12}^2## and ##R_{12}^2##. [EDIT: I should have said that you need the relation between ##T_{12}T_{21}## and ##R_{12}^2##]
 
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I don't know if that is what you mean.
##T_{12} = 1 + R_{12}, T_{21} = 1 + R_{21} = 1 - R_{12}##
However, I have ##1 - R_{12}^2##
 
Redwaves said:
##T_{12} = 1 + R_{12}, T_{21} = 1 + R_{21} = 1 - R_{12}##

Using these relations, what do you get for ##T_{12}T_{21}## expressed in terms of ##R_{12}##?
 
I get 1 - ##R_{12}^2##
 
Redwaves said:
I get 1 - ##R_{12}^2##
OK.

Using ##T_{12}T_{21} = 1-R_{12}^2## you should be able to reduce ##R = R_{12} + \large \frac{T_{12}R_{23}T_{21}e^{-i2k_2 L}}{1 + R_{23}R_{12}e^{-i2k_2 L}}## to the desired result.
 
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Thanks! My issue was that I had put##R_{12}## on the same denominator right after the geometric series.
 

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