How Does Momentum Affect the Velocity of a Caught Ball?

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving momentum and impulse, specifically focusing on a scenario where a boy throws a ball that is subsequently caught by another person on a frictionless surface. The problem raises questions about the velocity of the ball after being caught and the implications of momentum conservation in this context.

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  • Participants discuss the application of the law of conservation of momentum to determine the velocity of the ball after being caught. Some question the relevance of the initial thrower and focus on the interaction between the ball and the catcher. Others raise concerns about the assumptions made regarding the ball's trajectory and the effects of gravity.

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There is an ongoing exploration of the problem, with participants providing insights into the conservation of momentum and the nature of the collision. Some guidance has been offered regarding the inelastic nature of the collision, but no consensus has been reached on the specifics of the scenario.

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Participants note the lack of information about the ball's trajectory and the assumptions required to simplify the problem, including the effects of gravity and the nature of the catch. The discussion highlights the complexities involved in analyzing the situation accurately.

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sorry but i have one last question momentum and impulse...

A boy with mass of 60 kg standing on a frozen lake throws a ball with mass of 10 kg at 10 m/s towards his worst enemy. His enemy with a mass of 50 kg catches the ball. What velocity does the ball have after being caught? My personal guess is 0 m/s but I am pretty sure that is incorrect because 1. That is to eas of an answer, 2. This is sort of like a test grade, 3. There would be no work required. So can someone smart trll me how to work this question out, I would really appreciate it...
 
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The point of the frozen lake implies there are no frictional forces involved. You need to calculate this question by using the law of conservation of momentum.

Think about it logically for a sec. You catch a 10kg mass traveling at 10ms-1 (I think we assume it is horizontally) and at the same time you are standing on ice. Once you catch the rock, because of its momentum, you will begin to move in the direction the rock was travelling. Obviously not at 10ms-1 since you're heavier, but whatever velocity you are traveling at after the catch, is the velocity the rock will be traveling at too.
 


Mentallic is correct, but I would just like to add that the first boy should be removed from your thought process. You have a ball traveling at you (50 kg person) with a certain momentum (mass * velocity). It doesn't matter how it got its momentum at this point. The momentum when the ball is traveling at you (10 kg * 10 m/s) is the same as when you catch the ball. (Hint: think of you and the ball as an inelastic equation, your masses combine)
 


Mentallic said:
You catch a 10kg mass traveling at 10ms-1 (I think we assume it is horizontally)
I don't know that it will be traveling at 10 m/s at the instance of the catch . . .

Actually, if it follows a perfectly horizontal path, I guess it is safe to assume.
 
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kevtimc said:
I don't know that it will be traveling at 10 m/s at the instance of the catch . . .

Actually, if it follows a perfectly horizontal path, I guess it is safe to assume.


Of course there must be gravity present, so a parabolic projection of the rock's path will be travelled. However, because no further info is given about how far apart or how much time the rock was in flight for, we can only assume the simplest case scenario which is that it makes an inelastic collision with the enemy parallel to the frozen lake (ground).

A lot of assumptions are required in this question. and damn a rock that size thrown at that speed... can we assume attempted murder? :biggrin:
 

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