How Does Nodal Analysis Determine Currents in a Circuit with Multiple Resistors?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the application of nodal analysis to determine the currents through multiple resistors in a circuit that includes a current source. Participants seek assistance with the KCL (Kirchhoff's Current Law) equations and the overall methodology for solving the circuit, expressing varying levels of understanding and attempts at solutions.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express confusion about the application of nodal analysis, specifically regarding the inclusion of current sources in their calculations.
  • One participant provides specific values for resistors and current sources, attempting to apply KCL to derive node voltages but seeks confirmation and further assistance.
  • Another participant points out discrepancies in the number of resistors listed and the values of voltage supplies, indicating a need for clarification in the problem statement.
  • There are suggestions to identify reference nodes and label others clearly to facilitate understanding of the equations being written.
  • Some participants note that converting current sources is not necessary and emphasize the importance of correctly applying KCL without unnecessary transformations.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the need for clarity in problem statements and the importance of showing attempts at solutions. However, there is disagreement on the necessity of converting current sources and the correct identification of nodes in the circuit.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include unclear definitions of nodes and voltage sources, as well as potential misunderstandings regarding the application of KCL in circuits with current sources. Some participants have not specified their reference nodes, which may affect their equations.

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Homework Statement



Using Nodal analysis, determine the current through each resistor, for this circuit. Could you please show the KCL working out.I need the answers Please help me i am helpless with nodal analysis consist of a current source.Thanks in advance :) !.please help me.

r1=120
r2=360
r3=330
r4=820
r5=100
r6=470
i1=15mA

Homework Equations


i1 + i2 + i3 = 0 ?

3) The attempt at a solution
first i converted the current sources and apply kcl for node 1.
For node1:
(9-v1)/120+(-4.95-v1)/560=0
so v1=7.41176v
For node 2:
v2/820+(5--v2)/570=0
so v2=3v.

I assumed that all currents are coming in.

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I really want the answers please :cry::cry:[/quote]

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nisal5500 said:

Homework Statement



Using Nodal analysis, determine the current through each resistor, for this circuit. Could you please show the KCL working out.I need the answers Please help me i am helpless with nodal analysis consist of a current source.Thanks in advance :) !.please help me.

r1=120
r2=360
r3=330
r4=820
r5=100
r6=100
r7=470
i1=15mA

Homework Equations


i1 + i2 + i3 = 0 ?

3) The attempt at a solution
For the 1st question i gt v1=2.7794*10^-3v and v2=-0.072194v.

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I really want the answers please :cry::cry:

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You'll have to show an attempt so that we can know how to help; we won't do your homework for you here.

Presumably the list of resistances you've given are for the first circuit, but you've listed seven resistors when the circuit shows only six :confused: Also, it's difficult to make out the values on the voltage supplies from the image; you'll have to clarify them.

Start by identifying your reference node and labeling the others. Then make an attempt at writing node equations so we can see your level of understanding. If you have absolutely no idea what any of this means, you'll have to review your text and notes first.
 
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gneill said:
You'll have to show an attempt so that we can know how to help; we won't do your homework for you here.

Presumably the list of resistances you've given are for the first circuit, but you've listed seven resistors when the circuit shows only six :confused: Also, it's difficult to make out the values on the voltage supplies from the image; you'll have to clarify them.

Start by identifying your reference node and labeling the others. Then make an attempt at writing node equations so we can see your level of understanding. If you have absolutely no idea what any of this means, you'll have to review your text and notes first.


first i converted the current sources and apply kcl for node 1.
For node1:
(9-v1)/120+(-4.95-v1)/560=0
so v1=7.41176v
For node 2:
v2/820+(5--v2)/570=0
so v2=3v.
 
nisal5500 said:
first i converted the current sources and apply kcl for node 1.
For node1:
(9-v1)/120+(-4.95-v1)/560=0
so v1=7.41176v
For node 2:
v2/820+(5--v2)/570=0
so v2=3v.

It's not necessary to convert the current source; You're writing KCL equations for nodes, and the given current source just needs to be added to or subtracted from the current totals for the nodes it connects to. But it's okay to convert wish, it's just a bit of extra work for you. You should make clear what the converted source is. What's its potential, resistance, and orientation?

You haven't specified which nodes are which, so it's difficult to tell what your equations represent. Where's the reference node? Which node is node 1? Which is node 2? What's the value of the E1 source (looks like it might be 9V from the equations you wrote).
 

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