How does putting batteries in series increase voltage?

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The discussion revolves around the concept of connecting batteries in series and how this configuration affects voltage. Participants explore the underlying principles of battery operation and the flow of electrons within the circuit.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants question how batteries work together in series and the implications of terminal connections. There are attempts to clarify the role of internal chemical reactions and the flow of current when a load is applied. Some express confusion about the nature of charge distribution within the battery stack.

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The discussion is active, with various participants providing insights and clarifications about battery operation. Some guidance has been offered regarding the concept of combining cells and the behavior of charge within the battery stack, though multiple interpretations of the underlying physics are being explored.

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There are indications of confusion regarding the basic functioning of batteries and the effects of connecting them in series. Participants express a desire for simpler explanations and question assumptions about charge neutrality and internal reactions.

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Homework Statement


When you put batteries you place the negative terminals to the positive which supposedly "bumps' each electron to the next battery. However, the positive terminal is positive enough to neutralize the negative terminal and vice versa. Therefore, when I place batteries in series, only the terminals connected to the load are supplying energy. The other terminals should just be neutralizing one another, yes?

Even if the electrons are bumped along, how does it accumulate more voltage as it travels through the batteries?

Homework Equations


Please don't give me overly complicated equations. I'm only in grade 9.


The Attempt at a Solution


The only possibility I can think of is that the negative terminal has a greater charge than the positive terminal of the battery. In that case you would have electrons being "bumped along" but the number of "bumped" electrons would be (electrons in negative terminal)-(unneutralized protons in positive terminal), which wouldn't be very efficient.
 
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There are no equations needed to explain this:

You're getting hung up on "terminals" in a meaningless way. Just think of eliminating the two terminal that are touching and think of it as having built a bigger battery (that is, more plate, so more volts, not bigger plates so more current).
 
Just to clarify, how does a battery really work in the first place? That's what's confusing me.
 
Felchi said:
Just to clarify, how does a battery really work in the first place? That's what's confusing me.

It's called a "battery" because it consists of multiple cells of this type:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galvanic_cell

stacked together. Each cell produces a certain electric potential difference, and when the cells are combined in series to form a battery, their potentials add together. Same thing goes for combining two batteries (again, it's just a bunch of individual cells in series).
 
The amount of charge at the terminals of a battery is relatively small. When there is a load (completed circuit) placed on the battery, the internal chemical reactions will maintain some amount of charge on the terminals corresponding to the voltage versus load for that battery until the battery is depleted.

In the situation where there is no external load and when you first connect the batteries in series, there is a very brief moment where the charge at the terminals results in a tiny amount of current flowing internally within the battery stack, but this only lasts for a brief moment while the internal chemical reactions compensate for a just connected series of batteries. Once a load is placed on the batteries, then the chemical reactions will create and sustain a current flow, and the voltage will equal the sum of the voltage of all the batteries in the series.
 
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Why would the current within the battery stack not be sustained for a long period of time? Does the resistance of an external path somehow offer an incentive for the electrons to travel through it?
 
Felchi said:
Why would the current within the battery stack not be sustained for a long period of time? Does the resistance of an external path somehow offer an incentive for the electrons to travel through it?

If a battery could run forever without getting depleted it would be a perpetual motion machine. Nothing can provide power forever, it's just that batteries run out more quickly than some power sources, such as the sun.
 
Felchi said:
Why would the current within the battery stack not be sustained for a long period of time?
Asuming you mean the case where there is no external load, then the current flows for just a brief moment while charges at the terminals and the chemicals inside reach a point of equlibrium. The charges on the internal terminals is essentially neutral, while the outer terminals retain negative and positive charges.

When a load (completed circuit) is attached to the outer terminals, then the battery stack will maintain the charge corresponding to the voltage versus the load (current) for the outer terminals of the battery stack. The charges on the internal terminals will no longer be neutral, but transition from positive from the positive end of the stack to negative towards the negative end of the stack, again corresponding to the voltage and current flowing through the load and battery stack. During this time the potential energy inside the battery stack is being consumed in the form of a chemical transformation, eventually depleting the battery stack.
 
So in a battery stack if I were to extract a cell from the middle it would have no charge because it would be neutral?
 

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