How does quantum entanglement protect a key?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the application of quantum entanglement in secure communication, specifically focusing on whether it can ensure that a transmitted key can be verified as unread by the receiver. The scope includes theoretical aspects of quantum mechanics, implications for quantum key distribution, and the reliability of detecting eavesdropping.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant mentions that if two entangled photons are received, there is a 50% chance of detecting whether they remain entangled, raising questions about the reliability of detection in multiple pairs.
  • Another participant requests clarification on the sources of information being referenced to provide a more concise response.
  • A participant cites a specific news article regarding quantum satellite communications and questions whether quantum entanglement can guarantee that a key has not been read, or if it can only provide a high probability of detection.
  • Some participants suggest looking up "quantum key distribution" for additional information, indicating that it may provide relevant insights into the discussion.
  • A participant expresses confidence that quantum communicators can detect eavesdropping with high probability but acknowledges that complete certainty may not be achievable, highlighting the nuances in the interpretation of confidence in quantum mechanics.
  • The same participant notes the potential for misunderstanding in the language used in resources like Wikipedia, emphasizing the difference between "almost certainly" and "certainly" in the context of detection.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the certainty of detection in quantum key distribution, with some suggesting high probabilities while others question the possibility of absolute certainty. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the extent to which quantum entanglement can ensure the security of key transmission.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the assumptions made about the reliability of detection and the definitions of terms like "certainty" and "probability" in the context of quantum mechanics. The discussion does not resolve these ambiguities.

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The Bell inequality tells us (in effect) that if two photons (for example) were entangled when emitted, then we have a 50% chance of being able to detect that they were no longer entangled when they were received. To rephrase that, if they are not entangled when they are received, they still have a 50% chance of having that orientation that they would have had if they had still been entangled.

If one has (again, say) 30 pairs of entangled photons, one has only a 1 in a billion chance of not detecting if all 30 have been disentangled, but reports (such as those out today) suggest one can achieve probability 1 of detecting. Is that possible? If so how?
 
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gnnmartin said:
...reports (such as those out today) suggest ... Is that possible? If so how?

If you could give us an idea of what you are reading, a more concise answer to your question would be possible.
 
DrChinese said:
If you could give us an idea of what you are reading, a more concise answer to your question would be possible.
My question was prompted by recent news, such as http://www.nature.com/news/china-s-...-on-way-to-ultrasecure-communications-1.22142, but does not depend on it.

So more simply, can quantum entanglement be used to enable a key to be transmitted in the certain knowledge that the receiver can tell if it has already been read? If so, how? Or is it only possible to achieve arbitrarily high probability that the receiver can tell if the key has already been read?
 
Google for "quantum key distribution" - the Wikipedia article is pretty good.
 
Nugatory said:
Google for "quantum key distribution" - the Wikipedia article is pretty good.
Thanks, it is indeed pretty good.

I am (almost) confident that it confirms my understanding that quantum communicator can detect eavesdropping with probability approaching arbitrarily close to 1, but not with complete certainty. The difference is perhaps of no interest to most people, which is why even the Wiki article makes statements like "Second, any attempt at eavesdropping by Eve destroys these correlations in a way that Alice and Bob can detect." rather than "... almost certainly detect".

I say I am 'almost' confident because I am aware that one can feel certain of something and yet be wrong. In the Wiki article it is not difficult to read it without realising that 'confident' means 'effectively confident'. I hoped that respected people here would be able to confirm my conclusion, even if they also felt it necessary to point out I am nit picking. I hoped more fervently that if I am mistaken, someone here could point out why.
 

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