How Does Replacing a Sphere Affect Water Level in a Bowl?

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The discussion revolves around the effects on water level in a bowl when a solid sphere is replaced by another sphere of varying dimensions and densities. The original sphere floats, and participants are tasked with determining how changes in radius and density of the new sphere affect the water level, categorized as rising, falling, or unchanged.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the relationship between the sphere's density, radius, and mass, questioning how these factors influence buoyancy and displacement. Some consider scenarios where the sphere may or may not submerge, while others discuss the implications of density changes on water level.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, raising various scenarios and outcomes based on the properties of the spheres. There is recognition of the need to clarify assumptions about whether the new sphere will float or sink, and how this affects the water level. Some guidance has been offered regarding the implications of density changes.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the initial condition of the sphere floating and the importance of understanding how changes in radius and density could lead to different buoyancy outcomes. There is a focus on the need for clarity regarding the conditions under which the new sphere might sink.

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A small solid sphere of mass M0, of radius R0, and of uniform density ρ0 is placed in a large bowl containing water. It floats and the level of the water in the dish is L. Given the information below, determine the possible effects on the water level L, (R-Rises, F-Falls, U-Unchanged), when that sphere is replaced by a new solid sphere of uniform density.
https://s3.lite.msu.edu/enc/74/b3c49e2ca8cb7c50641a94dd509544cd403157aec9507f20a52bdc5947f0cb19184f2a219a924c3481bb57610950b65b7dd0f547f2f8b7a8b89c27e8be908981d875d7cfcda8738d36912b4c413a1f8c3b2a53a7dd9ca143fd48be3e50ded0c9.mp3
The new sphere has radius R > R0 and mass M = M0
The new sphere has radius R < R0 and density ρ = ρ0
The new sphere has mass M = M0 and density ρ > ρ0
The new sphere has mass M > M0 and density ρ = ρ0
The new sphere has radius R = R0 and mass M > M0
The new sphere has radius R < R0 and density ρ > ρ0

Homework Equations


B=mass/volume

The Attempt at a Solution


1. U
If it is not submerged then the displacement is equal to mass which doesn't change
2. F
This means less mass therefore less displacement
3. U
If it is not submerged then the displacement is equal to mass which doesn't change
4. R
More displacement
5. R
More displacement
6. R or F or U
It depends how it effects the mass[/B]
 
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ScrubTier said:
A small solid sphere of mass M0, of radius R0, and of uniform density ρ0 is placed in a large bowl containing water. It floats and the level of the water in the dish is L. Given the information below, determine the possible effects on the water level L, (R-Rises, F-Falls, U-Unchanged), when that sphere is replaced by a new solid sphere of uniform density.
https://s3.lite.msu.edu/enc/74/b3c49e2ca8cb7c50641a94dd509544cd403157aec9507f20a52bdc5947f0cb19184f2a219a924c3481bb57610950b65b7dd0f547f2f8b7a8b89c27e8be908981d875d7cfcda8738d36912b4c413a1f8c3b2a53a7dd9ca143fd48be3e50ded0c9.mp3
The new sphere has radius R > R0 and mass M = M0
The new sphere has radius R < R0 and density ρ = ρ0
The new sphere has mass M = M0 and density ρ > ρ0
The new sphere has mass M > M0 and density ρ = ρ0
The new sphere has radius R = R0 and mass M > M0
The new sphere has radius R < R0 and density ρ > ρ0

Homework Equations


B=mass/volume

The Attempt at a Solution


1. U
If it is not submerged then the displacement is equal to mass which doesn't change
2. F
This means less mass therefore less displacement
3. U
If it is not submerged then the displacement is equal to mass which doesn't change
4. R
More displacement
5. R
More displacement
6. R or F or U
It depends how it effects the mass[/B]
Not bad, but in a couple of places you wrote "if it is not submerged". You need to decide whether it can be submerged and if so how that affects the answer.
 
1. R or U
Floating: U mass doesn't change
Submerged: Radius increase means more displacement
2. F
To keep p constant both must fall
3. F or U
Floating: U mass doesn't change
Submerged: To get p to be larger with m constant then volume must decrease
4. R
If Mass increases but p stays constant then volume must also increase. Displacement increases in both situations
5. R or U
Floating: R Mass increases therefore more displacement
Submerged: U volume remains constant no change
6. R or F or U
Floating: Mass may or may not increase could be Rise or U
Submerged: Volume decreases therefore F

This is still wrong. I really can't tell why.
 
ScrubTier said:
1. R or U
Floating: U mass doesn't change
Submerged: Radius increase means more displacement
2. F
To keep p constant both must fall
3. F or U
Floating: U mass doesn't change
Submerged: To get p to be larger with m constant then volume must decrease
4. R
If Mass increases but p stays constant then volume must also increase. Displacement increases in both situations
5. R or U
Floating: R Mass increases therefore more displacement
Submerged: U volume remains constant no change
6. R or F or U
Floating: Mass may or may not increase could be Rise or U
Submerged: Volume decreases therefore F

This is still wrong. I really can't tell why.
You are told it is floating initially. What you have to consider is which of the proposed changes might result in the sphere sinking, and how that might affect the change in water level.
 
In 1, 2,4 It would not submerge
so 1. Would be no change because not submerging and mass no change
2. Fall because p being the same, R getting smaller, than M must also get smaller
4. Rise because p is the same, M gets larger
?
 
ScrubTier said:
In 1, 2,4 It would not submerge
so 1. Would be no change because not submerging and mass no change
2. Fall because p being the same, R getting smaller, than M must also get smaller
4. Rise because p is the same, M gets larger
?
Right.
What about 3, 5 and 6?
 
Well doesn't it depend on if it actual sinks? Like how much the density changes which I don't know?
 
ScrubTier said:
Well doesn't it depend on if it actual sinks? Like how much the density changes which I don't know?
That's right. For the cases where the density increases, consider both possibilities. If this leads to different answers for R, F, U, list all those that may occur.
(For at least one of 3, 5, 6, not all of R, F, U are possible.)
 

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