How Does Rocket Velocity Relate to Escape Velocity and Gravitational Potential?

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The problem involves a rocket's velocity in relation to escape velocity and gravitational potential, specifically examining the conditions under which a rocket, after reaching a certain speed near the Earth's surface, achieves a specific speed at a great distance from Earth.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss energy conservation as a method to relate the rocket's initial speed to its speed at a distance, while questioning the connection between gravitational constants and the equations provided. There is also mention of linear approximation and its potential application in the problem.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the problem and clarifying the relationship between gravitational constants. Some guidance has been offered regarding the equations that may be relevant to the problem.

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Participants note the distinction between using G and g in the equations, prompting a discussion about the necessary relationships between these constants. There is also a mention of the forum's approach to learning, emphasizing the importance of individual effort in problem-solving.

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Homework Statement


A rocket accelerates to speed v0 near the Earth's surface,and then coasts upwards. Show that if
v0 = 2sqrt(gR)
where R is the Earth's radius, then very far from the Earth the rockets speed will be
v = sqrt(2gR)


Homework Equations


The only equations I have thought of that may help are:
Escape Velocity:
v = sqrt(2GM/R)
Gravitational potential energy:
U= -GMm/r



The Attempt at a Solution


I have attempted using energy conservation and solving for v, however the answer appears far from that required.
This lead me to think that perhaps linear approximation may be required but I am unsure how I would apply (1+x)n = 1+nx for x<<1 in this problem.
 
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Hi K29! Welcome to PF! :smile:

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K29 said:
A rocket accelerates to speed v0 near the Earth's surface,and then coasts upwards. Show that if
v0 = 2sqrt(gR)
where R is the Earth's radius, then very far from the Earth the rockets speed will be
v = sqrt(2gR)

The only equations I have thought of that may help are:
Escape Velocity:
v = sqrt(2GM/R)
Gravitational potential energy:
U= -GMm/r

Yes, those equations should do it …

but they use G, not g …

so what is the formula connecting G and g (and R)? :smile:
 
Ah yes. Thank you. All I needed to do was manipulate the final answer that I had from enegry conservations a tiny bit and then substitute that formula in

uhm as a new user,... am I meant to reply once I've got an answer??
I like the style of answering questions. Better than just copying an answer. "Help" is the way to go. At least that way I know where I've gone wrong
 
K29 said:
uhm as a new user,... am I meant to reply once I've got an answer??
I like the style of answering questions. Better than just copying an answer. "Help" is the way to go. At least that way I know where I've gone wrong

Hi K29!

Yes, it's friendlier if people reply. :smile:

Otherwise we tend to assume that they got a complete answer to the same question on another site, and never bothered with the hints from this site. :rolleyes:

The hints, btw, are the characteristic policy of PF … Greg Bernhardt :smile: reckons that members learn better if they have to do most of the work themselves!

See you around! :wink:
 

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