How Does Schrödinger's Wave Equation Describe Quantum Particles?

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The discussion revolves around Schrödinger's wave equation in quantum mechanics, focusing on its implications for the description of quantum particles, the nature of the wave function, and the normalization condition. Participants explore theoretical aspects, potential limitations, and comparisons with other equations in quantum mechanics.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses interest in Schrödinger's differential wave equation and its association with the motion of a particle under a potential energy function.
  • Another participant questions whether force can be well-defined in quantum mechanics and argues that the wave function may obscure the classical notion of a particle.
  • Concerns are raised about the true nature of the wave function, with some suggesting that quantities like |\Psi(x,t)|^2 may hold more physical meaning.
  • Discussion includes the non-relativistic nature of Schrödinger's equation and its derivation from conservation of energy, with references to the Klein-Gordon and Dirac equations as steps toward a relativistic framework.
  • Normalization of the wave function is discussed, with a participant stating that the total probability of finding a particle must equal one, emphasizing the necessity of the normalization condition.
  • Another participant suggests that while Schrödinger's equation is historically significant, it may be improved upon with alternative approaches.

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Participants express differing views on the interpretation of the wave function and its implications for understanding quantum mechanics. There is no consensus on the nature of the wave function or the adequacy of Schrödinger's equation compared to other formulations.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the limitations of Schrödinger's equation as a non-relativistic framework and the challenges in defining force within quantum mechanics. The discussion also highlights the need for normalization in the context of wave functions.

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..i, am assured this is the right place for this thread -

i, am interested in any arguments [ higher \ otherwise ] anyone may have, of: schroedinger's theory of QM ...in particula his differential QM wave equation, viz: solution Psi[x,t] giving the wave function to be associated with the motion of a particl of mass m under forces described by the potential energy function V[x,t], et cetera ..

..adios..

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Um, I wonder if force can be a well-defined quantity in QM under potentials...

I cannot say I agree with you about the "wave function associated with the motion of particle", rather I think Schrödinger equation smears the image of classical particle and no one really knows about what the wave function [tex]\Psi(x,t)[/tex] really is. Till this day, leading physicists admits that they don't exact understand the true nature of quantum mechanics in the documentary "The Elegant Universe".

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/elegant/program.html"

For me, [tex]|\Psi(x,t)|^2[/tex] and [tex]<\phi|\Psi(x,t)|\phi>[/tex] seems to have a more "physical meaning" than the wave function itself.

It is important to notice that Schrödinger equation is a non-relativistic equation (Schrödinger tried unsuccessfully to formulate the quantum version). Schrödinger's equation can be deduced through conservation of energy assigning physical quantities to operators (with some ingenuity of course:rolleyes: ). We can write Schrödinger equation as simply as

[tex]H\Psi(x,t)=E\Psi(x,t)[/tex]

The next step towards a realtivistic "equation of motion" for quantum mechanics is the Klein-Gordon equation incoporating Einstein's energy-mass relation.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klein-Gordon_equation"

I'm not this advance yet on this issue, but I think that one major flaw of the Klein-Gordon equation is that it does not predict the "spin" of elctrons.
The next step is the Dirac equation.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dirac_equation"

Dirac equation not only predicts spins, it also predicts the existence of antiparticle.
 
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schroedinger/Hyperreality

thank you Hyperreality. - have you an argument, for:



http://www.pichotel.com/pic/1750Cz5l5/26452.gif




...giving the total probability of finding somewhere the particl described by the wave function [; the probability must equal one if there is a particl,] ... vis-a-vis: normalisation


...adios
 
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schroedinger's equation

i, think :

http://www.pichotel.com/pic/1750Cz5l5/26475.gif

..may; if, one assumes: schroedinger's equation to be right - is justifiable in QM history ..but: may be bettered, with: algebra and parallelising and apparelment; prehaps .. see the equation with the tautology, of; others !

- substantsively, there is no doubt, of: schroedinger's greatness .


adios
 
the normalisation condition, namely

[tex]\int^{-\infty}_{\infty} \psi^* \psi dx = 1[/tex]

(at least for square integrable functions defined over [itex][-\infty, \infty][/tex]) is merely saying that the particle must exist somewhere.<br /> <br /> Also note that wavefunctions do not only describe particles; they are representations of the state vector in |x> basis.[/itex]
 
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