How Does Temperature and Pressure Affect Gibbs Free Energy in Water?

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This discussion focuses on the relationship between temperature, pressure, and Gibbs Free Energy in water, specifically analyzing a scenario where the temperature of one mole of water is increased from 198 K to 303 K at atmospheric pressure. The relevant equations include V=(dG/dP) for constant N and T, and S=-(dG/dT) for constant N and P. The calculated Gibbs Free Energy change (delta(G)) at 298 K is -237.13 kJ/mol, and participants discuss how to determine the pressure needed to compensate for the change in Gibbs Free Energy due to the temperature increase.

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Homework Statement



Suppose you have a mole of water at 198 K. and atmospheric pressure. use the data at the bac of this book to determine what happens to its gibbs free energy if you raise the temperature to 303 Kelvins. To compensate for this change, you could increase the pressure of the water. How much pressure would be require?

Homework Equations



V=(dG/dP), N and T are fixed
S=-(dG/dT), N and P are constant
delta(G)=delta(H)-Tdelta(S)

The Attempt at a Solution



H2O=> H2+.5*O2

delta(G)=-237.13 kJ/mol at 298 K(from thermodynamic reference table in back of my textbook).

I don't think I can used the equation delta(G)=delta(H)-Tdelta(S) since the temperature now changes ; therefore I turn to the equation S=-(dG)/dT. dT=303K-298 = 5 Kelvins. Not sure how to find

for the second part of the problem, I am now concerned with the amount of pressure I would add to compensate for the change in Gibbs free energy when the temperature increases. I think I would used the thermodynaimic identity equation , V=dG/dP? I would already have calculated dG from my equation S=-(dG/dT). How would I calculate my volume?
 
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You don't know how to calculate the volume of a mole of water? :smile:
Also, doesn't your book have the specific or molar entropy of water?
 
Mapes said:
You don't know how to calculate the volume of a mole of water? :smile:
Also, doesn't your book have the specific or molar entropy of water?

sure I know how to calculate the volume of 1 mole of water: I could either use NKT/P = V equation or used the knowledge that 1 mole of water is 18 grams which means the volume of water is 18 m^3 since density of water is 1.00 kg /m^3
 
Well, the first way only works with ideal gases...
The second way has some calculation errors or typos, but at least it's the right general approach. Does this help in calculating the necessary pressure for the desired change in G?
 
Mapes said:
Well, the first way only works with ideal gases...
The second way has some calculation errors or typos, but at least it's the right general approach. Does this help in calculating the necessary pressure for the desired change in G?

yes since V=dG/dP
 

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