How Does the Differential df Relate to Function Approximation?

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The discussion centers on the relationship between the differential df and function approximation, particularly in the context of multivariable calculus. Participants explore the definition and implications of the total derivative and the chain rule, as well as proofs and approximations related to these concepts.

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  • Some participants state that df represents the total derivative, providing the equation of the tangent plane that approximates changes in the function near a point.
  • One participant describes how to express f(x, y) as a function of a single variable t and applies the chain rule to derive the relationship between df/dt and the partial derivatives.
  • Another participant seeks a proof for the chain rule application, expressing uncertainty about the underlying theory of partial differentiation.
  • A later reply offers an informal proof of the chain rule, but acknowledges it may be incorrect and provides a link to a more formal demonstration.
  • Some participants suggest that the expression for df can be derived from Taylor's series expansion, requiring the function to be differentiable twice in a neighborhood.
  • One participant proposes combining previous answers to create a δ-ε proof, emphasizing the approximation of function values within a specified accuracy.

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Participants express varying levels of understanding and approaches to proving the relationship between df and function approximation. While some agree on the definitions and applications, others raise questions about proofs and the theoretical foundations, indicating that the discussion remains unresolved.

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Participants mention the need for differentiability and the conditions under which Taylor's series can be applied, as well as the implications of using δ-ε proofs for approximations. These aspects highlight limitations in the assumptions made during the discussion.

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let f(x,y)=0
Why df=(∂f/∂x)dx + (∂f/∂y)dy?
 
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This is the definition of the total derivative, aka differential as I know it.

df here gives you the equation of the tangent plane that approximates the change of the function near a point. Was that your question?
 
If x and y are themselves functions of a parameter, say, t, then
we can think of f(x, y)= f(x(t), y(t)) as a function of the single variable t and, by the chain rule:
\frac{df}{dt}= \frac{\partial f}{\partial x}\frac{dx}{dt}+ \frac{\partial f}{\partial y}\frac{dy}{dt}

And then, the usual definition of the "differential" as df= (df/dt)dt gives
df= \frac{\partial f}{\partial x}\frac{dx}{dt}dt+ \frac{\partial f}{\partial y}\frac{dy}{dt}dt= \frac{\partial f}{\partial x}dx+ \frac{\partial f}{\partial y} dy
 
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HallsofIvy said:
If x and y are themselves functions of a parameter, say, t, then we can think of f(x, y)= f(x(t), y(t)) as a function of the single variable t and, by the chain rule:
\frac{df}{dt}= \frac{\partial f}{\partial x}\frac{dx}{dt}+ \frac{\partial f}{\partial y}\frac{dy}{dt}

And then, the usual definition of the "differential" as df= (df/dt)dt gives
df= \frac{\partial f}{\partial x}\frac{dx}{dt}dt+ \frac{\partial f}{\partial y}\frac{dy}{dt}dt= \frac{\partial f}{\partial x}dx+ \frac{\partial f}{\partial y} dy

But how can I prove this \frac{df}{dt}= \frac{\partial f}{\partial x}\frac{dx}{dt}+ \frac{\partial f}{\partial y}\frac{dy}{dt}?

I know the basic operation in partial differentiation but i just not quite understand the theory behind it. Are there some proofs?
 
A very informal (and possibly incorrect) proof I just thought of:

df=df(x(t),y(t))=f(x(t+h),y(t+h))-f(x(t),y(t))=f(x(t+h),y(t+h))-f(x(t),y(t+h))+f(x(t),y(t+h))-f(x(t),y(t))=\frac{\partial f}{\partial x}dx+\frac{\partial f}{\partial y}dy\Leftrightarrow \frac{df}{dt}=\frac{\partial f}{\partial x}\frac{dx}{dt}+\frac{\partial f}{\partial y}\frac{dy}{dt}

For something more formal http://math.uc.edu/~halpern/Calc.4/Handouts/Proofchainrule2dim.pdf
 
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ck00 said:
But how can I prove this \frac{df}{dt}= \frac{\partial f}{\partial x}\frac{dx}{dt}+ \frac{\partial f}{\partial y}\frac{dy}{dt}?

I know the basic operation in partial differentiation but i just not quite understand the theory behind it. Are there some proofs?

It's the chain rule, it's very used in calculus. You can see a demonstration in wikipedia.

let f(x,y)=0
Why df=(∂f/∂x)dx + (∂f/∂y)dy?

That can be deduced writing f(x,y) as Taylor's series (for multivariate functions), and going up to the 2nd term. To do it f only has to be differentiable 2 times in (a,b) neighbourhood.

f(x,y) = f(a,b) + (\frac{\partial f}{\partial x}(a,b), \frac{\partial f}{\partial y}(a,b))\cdot (x-a, y-b)

Putting,
x-a=\Delta x
y-b=\Delta y
f(x,y)-f(a,b)=\Delta f

When \Delta x \to 0 and \Delta y \to 0 you get that expression.
 
Now put the two previous answers together (they did the hard work, I am just chiming-in), and do a δ-ε proof, showing that you can approximate the value of your function within ε>0 by using the right value of δ. This is for real-valued functions. If not, i.e., for Rn-valued maps , show:

i)The differential df is a linear map:

ii) ||f(x+h)-f(x)-hL(x)||/||h||→ 0

as ||h||→0 is satisfied only by the differential L(x)=df

In your case, you want to show that your function can be approximated to any degree of accuracy ε>0 by working within a ball B(x,δ), as all the other posters said.
 

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