How Does the Initial Condition Affect the Behavior of Y in Nonlinear First ODEs?

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The discussion revolves around the dependency of the behavior of the solution \( y \) in a nonlinear first-order ordinary differential equation (ODE) as time \( t \) approaches infinity. Participants explore how initial conditions may influence this behavior, particularly through the analysis of direction fields and slope fields.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents the ODE \( y' = t e^{-2t} - 2y \) and suggests that \( y \) approaches zero as \( t \) approaches infinity.
  • Another participant asserts that the ODE is linear and claims that the general behavior of the solution does not depend on the initial condition, stating that all solutions will approach zero as \( t \to \infty \) for \( t \ge 0 \).
  • A third participant emphasizes the importance of reading slope fields to determine the behavior of the solution.
  • Another participant notes that while all field lines trend towards \( y = 0 \) for \( t > 0 \), the initial \( y \) position (negative or positive) affects whether the solution increases or decreases.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the dependency of the solution's behavior on initial conditions. While one participant argues that the behavior is independent of initial conditions, others suggest that the initial position influences the direction of the solution's approach to zero.

Contextual Notes

There is a lack of consensus on whether the ODE is nonlinear or linear, which may affect the interpretation of the solution's behavior. Additionally, the discussion does not resolve the implications of the initial conditions on the solutions.

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This discussion may be useful for students and researchers interested in the behavior of solutions to first-order ordinary differential equations, particularly in the context of initial conditions and direction fields.

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Hello,

I need some help with describing the dependency with some nonlinear First ODEs.
The question: "Using DField, [a java program to graph first-ODEs], draw the direction field for the DE. Based on the direction field, e the determine behavior of y as t approaches infinity. If this behavior depends on the initial conditions, describes this dependency?

1. $y'=t*e^{-2t}-2y$

The behavior of y as t approaches infinity is approaching zero.https://www.physicsforums.com/attachments/4773
 
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I'm a tad confused by what you're asking. The DE you've provided is a linear, first-order ODE. Using standard methods, you can arrive at the exact solution
$$y(t)=\frac{x^2+C}{2 e^{2t}}.$$
Is the general behavior dependent on the initial condition? I should say not. As $t\to\infty$, the solutions are going to zero, regardless of where you start (assuming the initial condition has $t\ge 0$.)

Does this answer your question?
 
The instructor wants me to read the slope fields to determine what the behavior of the solution.
 
So, if you do that, you notice that all the field lines are going towards $y=0$, provided that $t>0$. Do you see that? So then, the only real difference in behavior occurs if the initial $y$ position is negative or positive. That determines whether the solution will increase or decrease. This is all information you can glean from the slope field.
 

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