How Does the Vector Field F = [-x³, x, 0] Behave for Constant x Values?

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The discussion revolves around the behavior of the vector field F = [-x³, x, 0] for constant values of x. Participants explore how this vector field behaves in the y-z plane and its implications for visualization and real-world applications.

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  • Conceptual clarification
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  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that when x is constant, the vector field has a constant vector value in the y-z plane, changing only with x and not being parallel to the x unit vector.
  • Others argue that the vector field vectors reside in the xy plane for any z value due to the absence of a z component, with the xy components depending solely on x.
  • A participant questions how the orientation of the vector field changes as x increases.
  • Some participants suggest plotting the vector field in 2D for visualization, noting that it would be the same for every value of z, resembling stacked xy planes.
  • There is a discussion about the magnitude of the vector field, with some stating it depends only on x.
  • A participant expresses interest in real-life applications of this vector field, but another participant states they are unaware of any specific applications.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the behavior of the vector field in relation to constant x values and its representation in the xy plane. However, there are differing views on the need for differentiation and the existence of real-life applications, leaving some questions unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express uncertainty regarding the visualization of the vector field and its real-world applications. There are also unresolved questions about the implications of the vector field's behavior as x changes.

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vector field F = [ -x3 , x, 0]

how does this behave for a constant x? Does that mean that I plot the vector field for different values of x?
 
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When x is constant the vector field in that plane of y and z has the same constant vector value. It changes only with x and it isn't in general parallel to the x unit vector.

It's like the ideal notion of gravity on the Earth's surface where it changes only with height but not with moving east or west or north or south.
 
jedishrfu said:
When x is constant the vector field in that plane of y and z has the same constant vector value. It changes only with x and it isn't in general parallel to the x unit vector.

ah yes. I see. But what happens to the vector field orientation as values of x increases? would you get something like this:
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I guess I don't understand your question. We went from vector field to the big bang in one post.

If you look at the vector field you have, you can immediately see that there is no z component meaning the vector field vectors will all reside in the xy plane for any z value. Also since the xy components depend on x alone then the vectors for a given y and z coordinate will be the same ie point in the same direction and have the same magnitude.

Why not try drawing the vector field at each x,y,z coordinate and see how it will look.
 
jedishrfu said:
I guess I don't understand your question. We went from vector field to the big bang in one post.
Oops I posted the wrong image. Long night, sorry. :)

jedishrfu said:
If you look at the vector field you have, you can immediately see that there is no z component meaning the vector field vectors will all reside in the xy plane for any z value. Also since the xy components depend on x alone then the vectors for a given y and z coordinate will be the same ie point in the same direction and have the same magnitude.

How can it have the same magnitude?
 
Compute the magnitude and you'll see it depends only on x.
 
jedishrfu said:
Compute the magnitude and you'll see it depends only on x.
Yes. Thank you so much.

Just one more question, as the value of x increases, how does the vector field look like? I can't find a way to plot this online to visualize it. I want to see this vector field in order to think of a scenario in nature where this vector field applies to.
 
Just plot it in 2d that is in x and y. It will be the same for every value of z so that means it's like stacking the x y planes on top of one another.
 
jedishrfu said:
Just plot it in 2d that is in x and y. It will be the same for every value of z so that means it's like stacking the x y planes on top of one another.
So the planes stacked together will form something like the image I posted above?
 
  • #11
jedishrfu said:
Didn't you post the wrong image?
Oh yes. Would it be field lines given by the equation y = 1/x +c stacked up on z axis? I got the equation by differentiating the vector field f = dr/dt
 
  • #12
No, I don't think you need to differentiate anything.

pick a point say (0,0,0) and the vector at that point is (0,0,0)

Pick another point (2,0,0) and the vector at that point is (-8,2,0)

...
 
  • #13
jedishrfu said:
No, I don't think you need to differentiate anything.

pick a point say (0,0,0) and the vector at that point is (0,0,0)

Pick another point (2,0,0) and the vector at that point is (-8,2,0)

...
I see. Is there any application of this in real life? As in, is there any part of nature that uses this vector field that you can think of?
 
  • #14
Not that I know of. The only application I can think of is keeping students busy learning new things.
 
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