How Electrodes in salt solution can increase the electric potential

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the mechanism by which electrodes placed in a salt solution, particularly in the context of neurons, can influence electric potential and action potentials. Participants explore the relationship between electrodes, current injection, and the resulting changes in ion concentrations and electric fields.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions how electrodes can increase potential, noting that they supply a current of electrons, which are negatively charged.
  • Another participant suggests that electrodes are typically connected to a DC source or battery, implying a source of current.
  • A further response emphasizes the concept of potential difference and electric fields, suggesting that the source of the electric field is not limited to the electrodes themselves.
  • There is confusion regarding the term "injecting current in a cell" and the necessity of electron donors or acceptors within the cell.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express uncertainty about the mechanisms involved and do not reach a consensus on how electrodes influence electric potential in a salt solution.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include a lack of clarity on the definitions of current injection and the roles of electron donors and acceptors in the context of neuronal action potentials.

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Hello,

I'm not sure if this is the right place for this question, but I am trying to understand how placing electrodes in the brain elicits action potentials.

In a neuron (brain cell), there exists a solution of sodium and potassium ions (among other things). When the brain wants to produce an action potential (electrical spike), the neuron brings in a lot of sodium ions from the outside to make the neuron more positive. It is this positive depolarization that starts an action potential. To artificially simulate this process, we place electrodes on the neuron. My question is how is an electrode able to increase the potential? From what I understand, electrodes can only supply a current of electrons (negatively charged).

EDIT: A lot of papers refer to "injecting current in a cell." I don't understand what that means as you would need an acceptor of electorons within the cell (or a donor)
 
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Don't they connect battery to the electrodes?
 
Yeah, it's usually connected to a DC source or battery. But my questions has more to do with the actual mechanism of how electrons in the electrodes can be used to positively or negatively polarize a salt solution
 
Potential difference means there is an electric field present, doesn't matter what is its source.
 

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